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Type S, as in "Sinister"
Acura's TL line is hot and frisky, yet still elegant

By Royal Ford | August 5, 2006

Acura describes its 2007 TL Type-S as ``sinister," a word I've never associated with Honda's upscale division.

But the hot Type-S is surprisingly frisky, something I discovered during a day of driving it out of the woods of Pennsylvania and through the twisting back roads of neighboring Maryland.

I also found the base TL version to have the kind of oomph that not long ago would have been labeled high performance. Maybe that's because the new TL has the same horsepower as the old Type-S. In fact, it was powerful enough to make me wonder if the extra few thousand for the Type-S is necessary, except for those who want crazy power instead of just superb performance.

The TL in base form has a 3.2-liter V-6 engine that produces a hefty 258 horsepower and 233 lb.-ft. of torque. Upgrade to the Type-S and you get a 3.5-liter V-6 with 286 horsepower and 256 lb.-ft. of torque.

Expect around 23 miles per gallon from the smaller engine and about 21 from the more powerful option.

The standard transmission in each model is a five-speed automatic with a manual option that can be shifted with paddles on the steering wheel. In the Type-S, the engine is revved on downshifts (called ``blipping" in a race car) for smoother transitions while maintaining speed.

It is a transmission that truly let's you be in charge when you opt to go manual -- something many automatics with manual option do not allow.

As you might guess, Acura's target TL customer -- particularly for the Type-S -- is a male in his 40s with an income of $100,000 or more. That's not to say that other people won't be able to afford the car when it goes on sale in the fall. Acura is pricing its TL models at between $34,000 and $39,000.

The company calls the TL an ``entry premium" vehicle, something of an oxymoronic phrase. But I guess it somehow makes sense, since in recent years Acura has been selling more than 70,000 of the cars annually in the United States, making it the financial backbone of the company.

And though Acura officials at the press launch for the TL repeatedly referred to the ``sinister styling" of the Type-S, it is also subtle and elegant, with its broad slits of headlights, fog lights dropped into the lower fascia, a mesh grille bisected by a chrome crossbar, and a pronounced hipline running front to rear.

Actually, Acura has always been subtle. For example, only the rear ward flip of a spoiler, hot-looking wheels, and awesome-sounding quad tailpipes give any outer hint of what lurks beneath and inside the Type-S.

Inside, stainless steel pedals in the Type-S differentiate it from the base model, as do firmly bolstered, multi seamed bucket seats and carbon fiber treatments.

But safety is what Honda/Acura has been about (and look for the Koreans to push them into making stability control systems standard in even lesser models). The TL comes with antilock brake system, brake assist, stability control, air bags for front and side, and front and rear curtain air bags, as well as a front-end crash system that sends the force of an impact below and over the cockpit .

You also get an array of standard comfort features that include a moonroof, 17-inch wheels, speed-sensitive wipers, heated power front seats , a pass-through rear center armrest, and an advanced audio system.

The Type-S comes with better wheels, a sport-tuned suspension, carbon-fiber interior trim, noise cancellation, and other goodies.

The TL, in both forms, is meant to compete with the BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G35 cars, Mercedes C-Class, and Lexus ES 330. In both performance and interior quality it achieves that goal.

yellowssm

To bad it is still FWD

rominl

iTrader: (4)

interesting, didn't expect them to come out with tl type s on this model. i wonder how the chassis and suspension is going to handle all that power.

and so the type s will be at 39k huh? suddenly it doesn't make is350 loaded looks all that bad

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

This thread is worthless without pics.

Faraaz23

I wonder if it'll have torque-steer.

I also wonder if the 3.5L engine is significantly heavier, if any, than the 3.2L and how that will affect weight and car balance.

I know some here don't like the TL, but if you live in a climate where you can't do AWD, its a pretty good car.

GSteg

iTrader: (15)

it'll have torque steer. The drivetrain layout is still the same as the old one. I wouldn't be surprised if the J35 is the same one in the odyssey, pilot, etc, but with more aggressive cams.

Though it can't be too much heavier since its basically the same block as the J32, but bored and stroked.
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GS69

We would be very lucky to get pix as Acura had a sneak peek show a few weeks ago for this & the MDX but everyone was sworn to secrecy which is why many are surprised this info finally surfaced. The official release date of the info is September 1st.

SHAWD would have been nice but I guess it was not practical this time ... I am sure it will surface in 2009.

KneeShoe00

Make it RWD!!!

GS69

I would not count on RWD anytime soon from Honda/Acura -- they seem more content on spending $$$ on other things like jets, lawnmowers, Asimo & cars for dog owner that will never see production.

LexFather

I think its a nice midlife update to keep things interesting.

I do think its rather posuerish, FWD with what black/dark gunmetal wheels, when we have faster RWD 335s, IS 350s, G35s today that also handle much better.

Interior still looks very nice.


I think the TL is a very good looking car, IMO, nothing "sinister" about that picture.

GS69

OK someone help me out here since I am no expert on the TL. The only differences I see are the side blinkers, dark rims, the fishnet stuff behind the grill & I think the steering wheel is different -- am I missing anything?

MSMLexIS

Interior definitely looks way better but the exterior is even more ugly than the last version. Making cars that look like this and going a little too far on the sporty styling cues are why acura does not have as strong an image as Lexus.

LexFather

No they finally got rid of the family car 4 spoke wheel and got a sport sedan 3 spoke one. Side markers were coming, TSX and I think RL have them.

I think they did a good job making minimal changes, its a good design. I wonder if the rear got Altezzas though?

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

Aren't the fogs different? And turn signals on mirrors?

LexFather

We said turn signals Obi-Wan . You are correct, the previous TL had no fogs, the new one does and chrome strips in teh grill