BMW 335i Sedan Discussion (merged threads)
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Got damn, its going to be like the G35 didn't even come out! They got to hate the fact the 335 comes out the same time as the G35.
THe press is going to (deservingly) hump this car to victory till we are blue in the face!
1. 335
2. G35
3. IS 350
then everyone else...
THe press is going to (deservingly) hump this car to victory till we are blue in the face!
1. 335
2. G35
3. IS 350
then everyone else...
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C&D also got a TT Supra to do 0-60 in 4.6 seconds in 1993. This feat was never replicated in the next 5 model years by C&D or any other magazine. C&D also got that car to run a 13.1 quarter mile at 109, another feat never again accomplished by another magazine (or owner) with a bone stock car.
BTW, if you try a few of the drag race calculators, you'll quickly discover the claimed 320 crank hp had to be getting to the rear wheels with only about a 1% loss...but manufacturers never send the magazine guys a ringer, do they?
BTW, if you try a few of the drag race calculators, you'll quickly discover the claimed 320 crank hp had to be getting to the rear wheels with only about a 1% loss...but manufacturers never send the magazine guys a ringer, do they?
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After following that topic and the various spin offs on the BMW forums it doesn't seem to be a problem. The problem he had is probably isolated. Even at the oil temps he was reporting it was within the specified opporating temps. Either way, it is something to look out for and follow, but probably nothing widespread.
Maybe someone should merge these threads?
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I personally think the 335i should be compared up the price ladder to cars like the S4, rather than down to cars like the G35 (and have the G compare with the more comparably priced 328), but we know no mags will do that.
Oh, btw you might want to merge these.
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only question here is where the heck is my zinio CD! grrr.
And yes, all manufacturers have their issues, some more, some less.... IS350 didnt have any engine issues, did it now? thats called technology leadership.
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And yes, all manufacturers have their issues, some more, some less.... IS350 didnt have any engine issues, did it now? thats called technology leadership.
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Its called using a less complicated and larger motor. Have you heard about the transmission failures going on with the ES and the Camrys?
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After following that topic and the various spin offs on the BMW forums it doesn't seem to be a problem. The problem he had is probably isolated. Even at the oil temps he was reporting it was within the specified opporating temps. Either way, it is something to look out for and follow, but probably nothing widespread.
they should have an sticker on it - dont drive it on track! But wait... its main advantage is sporty ride and all the BMW's are born or track? Or so the story goes...
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Good luck with car that can do 5 laps at the track... in OCTOBER.
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About comparing the IS350 engine against the 335i engine technologically speaking, the twin-turbo I-6 in the BMW is arguably more technologically advanced (you brought the technological debate up) than the larger capacity 3.5 liter V6 in the IS. Especially from an engineering point of view. Now am I saying that the IS350 engine is not high tech? No, I am not. I am simply saying the 335i engine is more so.
and like I said, this incident is not a common occurence so I wouldnt worry about the car being on a track....especially since it was developed on the Ring (which is a track).
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You do realize that the ES is a fancy Camry with a Lexus badge right? They share the same power-train (that includes the crappy transmission) and chassis.
About comparing the IS350 engine against the 335i engine technologically speaking, the twin-turbo I-6 in the BMW is arguably more technologically advanced (you brought the technological debate up) than the larger capacity 3.5 liter V6 in the IS. Especially from an engineering point of view. Now am I saying that the IS350 engine is not high tech? No, I am not. I am simply saying the 335i engine is more so.
and like I said, this incident is not a common occurence so I wouldnt worry about the car being on a track....especially since it was developed on the Ring (which is a track).
About comparing the IS350 engine against the 335i engine technologically speaking, the twin-turbo I-6 in the BMW is arguably more technologically advanced (you brought the technological debate up) than the larger capacity 3.5 liter V6 in the IS. Especially from an engineering point of view. Now am I saying that the IS350 engine is not high tech? No, I am not. I am simply saying the 335i engine is more so.
and like I said, this incident is not a common occurence so I wouldnt worry about the car being on a track....especially since it was developed on the Ring (which is a track).
And it shows - cars cant run more than 5 laps on the track. Why is it not "common"? They had fleet of 335i's and all of them did it...
I guess its fine, if you didnt market it as sports sedan...
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he was racing it on track, so definetly not something normal joe does... so basically his turbo's got heatsoaked after 5 laps on track to the point of car didnt want to go any further...
they should have an sticker on it - dont drive it on track! But wait... its main advantage is sporty ride and all the BMW's are born or track? Or so the story goes...
they should have an sticker on it - dont drive it on track! But wait... its main advantage is sporty ride and all the BMW's are born or track? Or so the story goes...
The cars run hot, it definitely could be an issue, but until it's confirmed I think jumping on that bandwagon is a little premature.
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no its not... BMW had to use turbo's to achive IS350 performance... thats not high technology. Using dual injection technology is world first and is technologically more advanced than using dual turbo's. It is hard to argue when you have naturally aspirated engine with same results as twin turbo engine...
And it shows - cars cant run more than 5 laps on the track. Why is it not "common"? They had fleet of 335i's and all of them did it...
I guess its fine, if you didnt market it as sports sedan...
And it shows - cars cant run more than 5 laps on the track. Why is it not "common"? They had fleet of 335i's and all of them did it...
I guess its fine, if you didnt market it as sports sedan...
As for which engine is more advanced; BMW has had engines over 300hp for something like 12 years now. It isn't like they can't produce an NA engine with high output, they just don't want to go the "more displacement for more power" route, obviously.