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Old 10-25-06, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Threxx
The Ridgeline actually uses a hybrid body on frame/unibody chassis design.

It actually has a full truck frame underneath in addition to the unibody design.

Kinda interesting - though of course make no mistake, it is still not well-suited for off-roading or for towing anything more than you might expect out of any compact truck on the market today.
ridgeline will do less than compact trucks since it isnt an truck, it is an car.. And edmunds blowing all 4 struts on light off road trip proves it.
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Old 10-25-06, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
ridgeline will do less than compact trucks since it isnt an truck, it is an car.. And edmunds blowing all 4 struts on light off road trip proves it.
Proves what? That it is not suitable for off-road use? I said that already.

Towing? It tows right along side most of the trucks in the compact arena... out-tows a couple competitors, actually.
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Old 10-26-06, 02:22 AM
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Brave move indeed!
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Old 10-26-06, 11:40 AM
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so whats the tq out of the new tundra? rather have torque than hp
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Old 10-26-06, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by typeshblue
so whats the tq out of the new tundra? rather have torque than hp
considering that LS 460 has similar engine, designed for sedans, 380hp with 370lbs, it is only expected that 5.7L in Tundra (1.0 L higher than LS) produces more than 30% more torque than LS460.

So expect close to 500lbs of torque...
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Old 10-26-06, 01:06 PM
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I wonder if this is just a stroked version of the LS600hl engine. Like the original used a 1uz-fe stroked by .7 liters.
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Old 10-31-06, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MSNBC
2007 Toyota Tundra's top engine, the i-Force 5.7-liter V8, will produce 381 horsepower. The Tundra will have a significantly more powerful large V8 to offer customers than will Ford, Dodge or Chevy. The F-150 offers the 5.4-liter Triton V8 that produces 300 hp and 365 ft-lbs. of torque, while the Dodge RAM can be had with a 5.7-liter HEMI V8 producing 345 hp and 375 ft-lbs. of torque. Toyota, however, would clearly be aiming at Chevy if this number is accurate, as the Silverado's Vortec MAX 6.0-liter V8 produces 367 hp and 375 ft-lbs. of torque. Toyota promised us back in February that the Tundra would be able to tow 10,000 lbs. with this engine, though since then both Ford and Chevy have increased the maximum towing capacities of their half-ton pickups to 10,500 lbs. With such a powerful V8, the Tundra should have no trouble meeting and/or exceeding the new towing limits of the domestics. Of course, that's assuming the Tundra's frame can take it.
Since it is the top engine, I wonder if there will be a lower output V8 also since the chevy 6.0 is only available on the heavy duty models

This will make fast GXs and LXs
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Old 10-31-06, 02:28 PM
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The 6.0 isn't only available on the HD models. In fact it's available on ALL GM half ton trucks except for the basic standard cab work truck.

Now on the half ton trucks and Avalanche it only puts out 367 horsepower @ 5500 rpm and 375 lb.-ft. of torque @ 4300 rpm... whereas on the GMC Sierra Denali it puts out, I think 380hp... and on the Escalade EXT half ton and Escalade SUV it puts out ~403hp.

I kinda wonder if Toyota purposely pushed it that 1 extra hp so they could claim it has more power than any half ton truck on the market (even if only by 1hp in some cases).
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old news
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=245308
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horsepower is absolutely meaningless on a truck. How much torque and at what RPM? Near 500 lb-ft? Yeah right. This engine won't be tuned with all the doo-dads from the LS460, nor will it have a monstrous high compression ratio, nor will it be tuned to run on anything but regular 87 octane fuel. I doubt it will break 400 lb-ft. If it did that'd be amazing for advertising but I really doubt it. "Near 500" is well off.
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
horsepower is absolutely meaningless on a truck. How much torque and at what RPM? Near 500 lb-ft? Yeah right. This engine won't be tuned with all the doo-dads from the LS460, nor will it have a monstrous high compression ratio, nor will it be tuned to run on anything but regular 87 octane fuel. I doubt it will break 400 lb-ft. If it did that'd be amazing for advertising but I really doubt it. "Near 500" is well off.
Er.. well, PEAK horsepower is not typically a major concern with trucks. The powerBAND is. And one of the components of a powerband is peak torque and at what RPM that peak occurs, but that's still from the full story. If you really want to get down to the nitty-gritty, start checking out the torque curve or horsepower curve from idle to redline.
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ok
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Old 10-31-06, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
ok
I guess that confirms what I was thinking (but not saying) previously... you're one of the many who throws around the terms torque and horsepower without much understanding of how the two are one in the same and what they really mean in terms of RPM.

If I'm incorrect, please feel free to tell me what I said that you disagree with.
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SteVTEC very well understands the relationship between hp and torque
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Old 10-31-06, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
SteVTEC very well understands the relationship between hp and torque
Good, then I'm sure he feels embarrassed to have 'accidentally' made a statement so ignorant as "horsepower is absolutely meaningless on a truck".
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