Supra is to Shelby as an SC in to.........
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ever wonder what todays sports cars match up to with the 60's era muscle cars?
i would like your input and opinions for a fun little list ...
1) Like the title says, i think the supra is comparable to the Shelby Mustang. Killer sports car with the legendary name.
2) and if the supra is a mustang, i think the SC would be like a Cougar. Not as popular but has a die hard following, has the same components, and owners swear by it.
3) I think the skyline would be the corvette. Again another classic, and always up against Supras...
4) and the Z the camaros..... the ever popular but not at the same level with the Skylines.
Feel free to add your thoughts...
i would like your input and opinions for a fun little list ...
1) Like the title says, i think the supra is comparable to the Shelby Mustang. Killer sports car with the legendary name.
2) and if the supra is a mustang, i think the SC would be like a Cougar. Not as popular but has a die hard following, has the same components, and owners swear by it.
3) I think the skyline would be the corvette. Again another classic, and always up against Supras...
4) and the Z the camaros..... the ever popular but not at the same level with the Skylines.
Feel free to add your thoughts...
Last edited by BMwhat?; 10-29-06 at 06:51 PM.
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BMwhat I think you are overstating the Supra a bit. The Supra doesn't quite live up to the Shelby name. While the Supra is a great car, it surely doesn't deserve a legendary status. Think about it, the history and racing heritage of the Shelby alone...
Anyways, your signature makes me laugh. BMWs are great. :P
Anyways, your signature makes me laugh. BMWs are great. :P
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I think the SC / Supra comparison is more like the Pontiac LeMans is to the GTO.
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Old one. The new one wouldn't make sense for the analogy... the LeMans hasn't been made in some time and when it was it (South Korean Daewoo) definitely didn't remotely share any lineage with the GTO / Australian Holden. The LeMans (and prior to that, the Tempest) shared the same platform, etc with the GTO being either an option package off the same car or a sister offering to it (depending on the year).
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The Supra may be popular, but street racing has no heritage. It's a dangerous and illegal activity that only proves trouble and therefore the Supra is merely another fast car with no racing heritage.
The next time I hear "the number 5 Supra driven by Mario Andretti has just passed the Lotus powered car in the 17th turn" ........... I'll give this thread a second thought.
The next time I hear "the number 5 Supra driven by Mario Andretti has just passed the Lotus powered car in the 17th turn" ........... I'll give this thread a second thought.
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If I had to compare the Miata to a similar car of the Sprite's era, I'd pick the Triumph Spitfire. The Spit was a much more refined car, but still sporty, and with an independent rear suspension, quite competitive at autocrosses and short sprints. The Sprite was truly a minimalist sports car - with just enough content to keep from being confused with a roller skate. It was essentially a 48hp go-cart that had been made (barely) street legal by adding lights, horn, and an emergency brake. It was horribly slow in stock trim, but responded very well to simple engine mods, thanks to its light weight.
The Bugeye's popularity in the US was due to its low cost and fine SCCA class racing, where it competed in H and I production depending on year and engine. It was a reasonably competent handler, and it didn't possess enough power to get you into SERIOUS trouble. The original Mk. 1 Sprite was capable of 0-60 in just over 20 seconds, with a top speed of about 70 mph if you had patience. The illusion of speed was considerable – with your tailbone only about two and a half inches above the street and your head sticking out over the windshield.
All in all, it was a perfect way for a novice to go club racing on a budget. Bolt in a roll bar, tape up the headlights, inflate the tires to 40 psi, and you’re a racer. The Sprite’s only real drawback was its size. If you were over 5' 7" and 135 lbs, if you could struggle in, you would have to have the car cut off of you to get out. Not many people of legal driving age today could get through the door with the top in place. The secret was to leave the top at home and step over the door and scoot down under the wheel
I helped a friend restore a Bugeye back in the late '70's, when we conspired with our office in Aberdeen to ship hard-to-get parts in amongst oilfield parts being returned for service. To give you an idea how truly small the Sprite was, when the new transmission arrived for his project, my friend simply tucked it under his arm and took it out to his car. Try that with your T-10 Toploader.
The Bugeye's popularity in the US was due to its low cost and fine SCCA class racing, where it competed in H and I production depending on year and engine. It was a reasonably competent handler, and it didn't possess enough power to get you into SERIOUS trouble. The original Mk. 1 Sprite was capable of 0-60 in just over 20 seconds, with a top speed of about 70 mph if you had patience. The illusion of speed was considerable – with your tailbone only about two and a half inches above the street and your head sticking out over the windshield.
All in all, it was a perfect way for a novice to go club racing on a budget. Bolt in a roll bar, tape up the headlights, inflate the tires to 40 psi, and you’re a racer. The Sprite’s only real drawback was its size. If you were over 5' 7" and 135 lbs, if you could struggle in, you would have to have the car cut off of you to get out. Not many people of legal driving age today could get through the door with the top in place. The secret was to leave the top at home and step over the door and scoot down under the wheel
I helped a friend restore a Bugeye back in the late '70's, when we conspired with our office in Aberdeen to ship hard-to-get parts in amongst oilfield parts being returned for service. To give you an idea how truly small the Sprite was, when the new transmission arrived for his project, my friend simply tucked it under his arm and took it out to his car. Try that with your T-10 Toploader.
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The Supra may be popular, but street racing has no heritage. It's a dangerous and illegal activity that only proves trouble and therefore the Supra is merely another fast car with no racing heritage.
The next time I hear "the number 5 Supra driven by Mario Andretti has just passed the Lotus powered car in the 17th turn" ........... I'll give this thread a second thought.
The next time I hear "the number 5 Supra driven by Mario Andretti has just passed the Lotus powered car in the 17th turn" ........... I'll give this thread a second thought.
And maybe i do think too much of the supra... since this car is my freakin unicorn...
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If I had to compare the Miata to a similar car of the Sprite's era, I'd pick the Triumph Spitfire. The Spit was a much more refined car, but still sporty, and with an independent rear suspension, quite competitive at autocrosses and short sprints. The Sprite was truly a minimalist sports car - with just enough content to keep from being confused with a roller skate. It was essentially a 48hp go-cart that had been made (barely) street legal by adding lights, horn, and an emergency brake. It was horribly slow in stock trim, but responded very well to simple engine mods, thanks to its light weight.
The Bugeye's popularity in the US was due to its low cost and fine SCCA class racing, where it competed in H and I production depending on year and engine. It was a reasonably competent handler, and it didn't possess enough power to get you into SERIOUS trouble. The original Mk. 1 Sprite was capable of 0-60 in just over 20 seconds, with a top speed of about 70 mph if you had patience. The illusion of speed was considerable – with your tailbone only about two and a half inches above the street and your head sticking out over the windshield.
All in all, it was a perfect way for a novice to go club racing on a budget. Bolt in a roll bar, tape up the headlights, inflate the tires to 40 psi, and you’re a racer. The Sprite’s only real drawback was its size. If you were over 5' 7" and 135 lbs, if you could struggle in, you would have to have the car cut off of you to get out. Not many people of legal driving age today could get through the door with the top in place. The secret was to leave the top at home and step over the door and scoot down under the wheel
I helped a friend restore a Bugeye back in the late '70's, when we conspired with our office in Aberdeen to ship hard-to-get parts in amongst oilfield parts being returned for service. To give you an idea how truly small the Sprite was, when the new transmission arrived for his project, my friend simply tucked it under his arm and took it out to his car. Try that with your T-10 Toploader.
The Bugeye's popularity in the US was due to its low cost and fine SCCA class racing, where it competed in H and I production depending on year and engine. It was a reasonably competent handler, and it didn't possess enough power to get you into SERIOUS trouble. The original Mk. 1 Sprite was capable of 0-60 in just over 20 seconds, with a top speed of about 70 mph if you had patience. The illusion of speed was considerable – with your tailbone only about two and a half inches above the street and your head sticking out over the windshield.
All in all, it was a perfect way for a novice to go club racing on a budget. Bolt in a roll bar, tape up the headlights, inflate the tires to 40 psi, and you’re a racer. The Sprite’s only real drawback was its size. If you were over 5' 7" and 135 lbs, if you could struggle in, you would have to have the car cut off of you to get out. Not many people of legal driving age today could get through the door with the top in place. The secret was to leave the top at home and step over the door and scoot down under the wheel
I helped a friend restore a Bugeye back in the late '70's, when we conspired with our office in Aberdeen to ship hard-to-get parts in amongst oilfield parts being returned for service. To give you an idea how truly small the Sprite was, when the new transmission arrived for his project, my friend simply tucked it under his arm and took it out to his car. Try that with your T-10 Toploader.
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