Edmunds First Drive: 2007 BMW X5
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Ask anyone, I'll down talk an X5, but respect where respect is due.
Besides, whatever magazine article you find --- it's all opinions anyways. Plus latest Motortrend compared a buncha SUV's and X5 4.8is won first place.
Magazine reviews are just a bunch of ****. User reviews are where it's at kids. Realize this and you're ahead of the pack.
And for the guy that doubts the X5 can't go 140mph, I bet you won't believe the Mercedes S600 can't do 0-60 in under 4 seconds right? Or an E55 can't run 10 second 1/4mi's?
We live in a world where anything can happen. Where Jeeps run 4.5s 0-60's.
Besides, whatever magazine article you find --- it's all opinions anyways. Plus latest Motortrend compared a buncha SUV's and X5 4.8is won first place.
Magazine reviews are just a bunch of ****. User reviews are where it's at kids. Realize this and you're ahead of the pack.
And for the guy that doubts the X5 can't go 140mph, I bet you won't believe the Mercedes S600 can't do 0-60 in under 4 seconds right? Or an E55 can't run 10 second 1/4mi's?
We live in a world where anything can happen. Where Jeeps run 4.5s 0-60's.
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My girlfriend ordered one in monaco blue 4.8. It should arrives sometimes in Jan. ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, I think there's no other SUV (or SAV) that can even come close to X5 in beauty contest. The car looks so amazing inside out. And I have no doubt that the car will drive nicely and handle very well. I am just not too sure about the reliability.
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Personally, I think there's no other SUV (or SAV) that can even come close to X5 in beauty contest. The car looks so amazing inside out. And I have no doubt that the car will drive nicely and handle very well. I am just not too sure about the reliability.
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My girlfriend ordered one in monaco blue 4.8. It should arrives sometimes in Jan. ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, I think there's no other SUV (or SAV) that can even come close to X5 in beauty contest. The car looks so amazing inside out. And I have no doubt that the car will drive nicely and handle very well. I am just not too sure about the reliability.
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Personally, I think there's no other SUV (or SAV) that can even come close to X5 in beauty contest. The car looks so amazing inside out. And I have no doubt that the car will drive nicely and handle very well. I am just not too sure about the reliability.
Shawnmack - Then I guess you can tell my why I'm on my second tranny?
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Again, concerns were space, and this time, price. But it says: "That said, we still thoroughly enjoyed the Bimmer, and several staffers would've picked it for themselves if money and passenger capacity were no object. The fact that the highly desirable X5 is going to be entering its sixth year in its current form is testament to the ability of BMW to nail it the first time around."
BMW's point is that the X5 isn't for everyone ... it hasn't had the space of 'regular' SUVs, and of course iDrive and its price have been turnoffs for many. But like the FX45, it's about driving with some utility, and there in every review you posted, it shines.
And now we have a new one. With more space.
ties MDX for 1st
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...7/pageId=27379
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...7/pageId=27379
or Motortrend
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../pictures.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../pictures.html
Again, the details are important... "... $1600 Sport package would make it competitive ... Best fuel economy and range of the bunch ... Once the performance sport/ute benchmark, the four-year-old X5 4.4i is due for replacement"
And guess what, we have a new one.
The X5 is not the 3er.
The fact that in your links it's compared to an MDX as well as a Cayenne Turbo says something too... but compared with those bookends it comes down to what you're looking for (or what the emphasis of the comparison is - performance or utility - the X5 is better than more on performance, and worse than most on utility).
Regardless of what we say though the X5 has been a runaway success for BMW and will continue to do well. This new one is a much better package than the old one.
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benchmark huh?
not according to C&D
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...nch-page8.html
or edmunds
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...3/pageId=60870
ties MDX for 1st
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...7/pageId=27379
or Motortrend
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../pictures.html
last place
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ne_engine.html
The X5 is not the 3er.
not according to C&D
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...nch-page8.html
or edmunds
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...3/pageId=60870
ties MDX for 1st
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...7/pageId=27379
or Motortrend
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../pictures.html
last place
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ne_engine.html
The X5 is not the 3er.
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Not liking the styling of the new X5 and i love me some Lexus probably there biggest fan but the 1st X5 is probably the baddest SUV on the road. Stylish, Luxurious, capable off road and highly capable on road. The first carlike SUV to offer carlike acceleration as well as car like ride and handling. I cant say enough good about X5 and i havent even driven it yet.
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My girlfriend ordered one in monaco blue 4.8. It should arrives sometimes in Jan. ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, I think there's no other SUV (or SAV) that can even come close to X5 in beauty contest. The car looks so amazing inside out. And I have no doubt that the car will drive nicely and handle very well. I am just not too sure about the reliability.
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Personally, I think there's no other SUV (or SAV) that can even come close to X5 in beauty contest. The car looks so amazing inside out. And I have no doubt that the car will drive nicely and handle very well. I am just not too sure about the reliability.
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They are based on the 2000 model, with updates and cosmetic changes but it's still basically the 00 model against 04-06's in all of those comparo's
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Too bad BMW has said they will not make a M version of this or the 7 series because they feel those cars are not sporty enough. Don't have a link, but I remembered reading this.
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I think that you're asking the wrong question. The guy you are replying to says: "The benchmark is back".
I think that you can definitely ask "Back, huh?", based on the reviews you've cited. However, those reviews are for the old model and the review that is the topic of this thread is for the new model, so it is not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. Also, some of the reviews were off-road based (where BMW cannot take 1st) and in some cases, an I6 model was squared off against V8 competition (Touareg, for example). Infinity's FX was at least the bimmer's equal, dynamically (pavement) when it came out, though.
Also, people that think that weight makes a vehicle stable at high speeds need to drive a heavy vehicle with a soft suspension to appreciate just how quickly it becomes unstable (a handful) on a less than glass smooth roads as speeds increase. It seems to me that there are 2 components to high-speed stability: 1) Body control (suspension) and 2) Weight. The former has to do with firmer shocks/springs/suspension geometry and tuning and nothing to do with weight. The latter is a combination of weight, lift and downforce at speed. If a car is not producing a large lift at speed, there is no reason for it to be unstable, like the poster suggests, even if it weighs significantly less than 4000 lbs.
I think that you can definitely ask "Back, huh?", based on the reviews you've cited. However, those reviews are for the old model and the review that is the topic of this thread is for the new model, so it is not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. Also, some of the reviews were off-road based (where BMW cannot take 1st) and in some cases, an I6 model was squared off against V8 competition (Touareg, for example). Infinity's FX was at least the bimmer's equal, dynamically (pavement) when it came out, though.
Also, people that think that weight makes a vehicle stable at high speeds need to drive a heavy vehicle with a soft suspension to appreciate just how quickly it becomes unstable (a handful) on a less than glass smooth roads as speeds increase. It seems to me that there are 2 components to high-speed stability: 1) Body control (suspension) and 2) Weight. The former has to do with firmer shocks/springs/suspension geometry and tuning and nothing to do with weight. The latter is a combination of weight, lift and downforce at speed. If a car is not producing a large lift at speed, there is no reason for it to be unstable, like the poster suggests, even if it weighs significantly less than 4000 lbs.
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well I'm up next for a car next year and I'm not saying what I'm getting :angel: but it'll probably be between this and an RX350 for my wife. New X5 looks hot so far, but I'm not big on the 400 lb weight increase. Good grief, will that thing even move with the 3.0 NA I-6 anymore? Might only consider the V8 then, or maybe they'll put the TT in it.
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