DASHOCKER

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Here is a 3 Series Coupe in action on the ring. The 330I sedan should handle the same. Try this in a Gs350

http://www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=56

mmarshall

The Q is a interesting car, and sells at BIG discounts due to its unpopularity, but the downside is that it is almost worthless as a used car....good luck trying to resell one. Infiniti is yanking it from the American market because of low sales....back home in Japan it is known as the Nissan Cima.

ninous26

LOL, Im surprised I didnt get anally flamed for that comment. The Q is my faveorite flagship out of the three: RL, LS, and Q45.

ninous26

I was going to ask the same thing, and say that its unnessescary. He probably wants it as an "ooooh" factor or to show off. Thats probably why I would want that.

mmarshall

Well, as for "anally flaming", I don't go that way.

mmarshall

Push-button starts are not just " showing off ". They are a nice convienence...except that they can destroy the starter motor if they malfunction and don't release it in time when the engine catches, as you would do with a key.

DASHOCKER

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The 330I has push button start

mmarshall

With BMW electronics?
Better keep a spare starter motor handy. ( see my post above )

ff_

The S2000 I had used a start button, but the duration of the cranking wasn't controlled by the car like it is on the IS. It was completely user-controlled. The way it should be.

DASHOCKER

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Lexus has its share of electrical and mechanical problems as well. Just take a look on this forum for reference. I believe the BMW elctrical problems are being over dramatized imo. You take care of a car, and it will take care of you I have no electrical problems to date on my X3. Only 847 miles on it so far.

LexFather

I also thought push button start and keyless entry were gimmicks until I had a IS 250 loaner and had my hands full of stuff and I just opened the handle and pressed a button and left.

Its just convenient to me, damn key doesn't leave your pocket.

As for problems,Lexus has been the #1 brand for quality short AND long term, this is proven and now a world-wide understanding. For anyone to dispute is silly. No Lexus is not perfect but they have the LEAST amount of issues.

Sounds like the OP would love a Lexus GS right now!

LexFather

No flames, you are entitled to your opinion. Clearly, almost no one agrees with you though, as the Q45 is discontinued and has always sold very very poorly.

I started a thread a couple months ago, the M45/Q45 are just bargain basement used car deals of the century. $20,000 for one of these cars? What a buy!

mmarshall

847 miles ...that's probably why it is still reliable.

mmarshall

Of course, yours may turn out to be more reliable than the BMW average. It's often difficult, with electronics, to tell in advance.

ninous26

Damn, I never knew about the Q being discontinued thats like when acura d/c'ed the legend.

I don't think he should get a GS, everyone has them, and he wouldn't be different from the rest. The plus side is that if he has any problems, he can always go to the GS forum and get his problems solved. I can't name any other cars, I wouldn't go BMW at all. Oh well, seems like the GS is the way to go.