toneman

Now I can't speak for every single university police dept., but reading the above quote at face value--so you're saying that if I'm observed speeding thru campus and a campus police sees me...said campus police can't and/or won't ticket me for speeding if I'm not a student of the university that the campus police serves? Somehow I find this really hard to believe...

STIG

pay for it and move on. I've learned this in a hard way. Trust me. Not worth your time fighting for 60 dollars.

Plus, usually, they are fix it ticket unless the cop was an a$$. Slap the plate with double tape and go get a signature from an officer. And pay 10 bucks. That's it!

O. L. T.

iTrader: (17)

Inoperable vehicles are not able to be ticketed for no front plate. If you are replacing the front bumper and go in for a bite of food - would you expect to come back out to a ticket for not having a front bumper?

Hell no. This car could be disabled and the plate could have been removed to avoid theft. Fact is, these bored losers are just walking around looking to mess with you since their mommy didn't love them as a child.

Either way, they can't ticket you for no front plate when the car is unmanned and immobile. What if you were replacing the L-plate bulbs and had removed the rear plate, I guess they'd ticket you for operating a vehicle with no plate, even though it was unmanned and completely abandoned? Can you ticket a car with a blown motor sitting in the driveway with having expired tags even though it hasn't moved in 2 yrs?

Please, stick this one back up this guy's azz real good. Same kind of guy that looks at you and calls you "son" when he is commanding you like a slave. I'd fight until he was fired IF it was not a fix it ticket and was actually a fine.

Sometimes I think people in CA are so used to being told how to live and where to stand when they scratch their *** that they don't even try and fight some of these ludicrous laws, fines, and bullies.

Fleainat

exactly, and unfortunately, at UCLA, it's UCPD, which is its own police department and has all of the same authority as LAPD, so I would not even try to contest it

STIG

ummm what??

I think front plate is req' by law.

lobuxracer

iTrader: (2)

First, let's squash a couple of popular myths.

From here.

The law does not say forward facing. It says front and rear.

Also from here.

So, any suggestion that the car was delivered this way could result in the dealer either being fined, or the dealer producing a document indicating your refusal to have a bracket installed. While we all complain about Corvettes not having plates, they must have provisions for mounting them by state law. Again, choosing to run them or not is up to the owner.

Finally, from here.

It amazes me that people would pay fines to support a fashion statement, but that is one of the things that makes us all different.

Pay up. You got busted.

toneman

Your statement would not necessarily apply for every state; in addition, you mentioned one little but important scenario that would preclude a cop from issuing a no-front-plate ticket for an "unmanned and immobile" vehicle--the fact that said car is possibly parked in a driveway--i.e., private property. Again--I can't speak for every state but I would venture to say that in more than a few states--if a no front-plate vehicle is parked on a public street, it is fair game for a no-front-plate ticket, regardless of whether or not it is unmanned and/or immobile. Whether the vehicle owner can legally have the citation removed is another matter, but to insinuate/generalize that no car missing a front license plate can't get ticketed just because it is unoccupied and unoperational is not completely valid.

Regarding your front bumper analogy--if you're "getting a bite to eat", how would it be possible that your "missing the front bumper" vehicle is necessarily "inoperable"--did you walk or secure other means of transportation to the food joint and your "inoperable" car w/ the missing front bumper just happened to be there?

Kepeli

Heck yeah you can, what happens in your town may differ from other towns. As far as your question...I lived in a town and if your tags were expired even w/out a blown engine and sat there for 2 years w/out a car cover it was considered abandoned and towed away.

mmarshall

Well, if the Judge or prosecutor doesn't order a copy of the body shop's records to verify your story, then that is THEIR stupidity ....and under those circumstances, law or no law, you probably DESERVE to beat the damn ticket.

Technique

lol, I like how we go from a college rent-a-cop front plate ticket to Judges and towing away abandoned cars with blown engines and auto-body shop records...

Magellan

So you’re saying the judge or prosecutor must assume the defendant is committing perjury, and should therefore take the extra time at taxpayers’ expense to make sure; all for a routine front plate ticket. Besides this sort of thing being a destroyer of our judicial system, why isn’t anyone here saying that committing perjury is wrong? Or have we all adopted the Clintonesque position that lying under oath is OK under certain circumstances?

mmarshall

No, I'm not saying that. But if you, as a cop or prosecutor, are going to accuse someone of breaking a DMV law, and charge him or her with a fine, you need some evidence to support your position.

If a person claims he or she had a car painted, and the outcome of a court case depends on who is telling the truth, then BOTH sides need documentation for their cases....in this case, a bill and records from the shop.

I know she can be loud and arrogant sometimes, but have you ever seen the look on Judge Judy's face ( and hear the tone of her voice ) when someone tries to pull one past her without proper documentation? I can't describe it...you have to see it for yourself.

Lexmex

I have a notorious issue with the Mexico City and Mexico State (adjoins the Federal District). My home state Florida does not have front plates, so by habit we don't put anything on the front. Most of my foreign friends also ditch the front plate, so it does not give the police an easy target (you have may have a termporary paper plate), but both states have front and rear plates. I can't begin to count how many times the police tell me also sorts of tales of how I must have a front plate due to the driving day restriction laws (I am now able to get an emissions sticker to drive every day).

Several of my friends who don't want to go through the hassle use false plates with different letters and numbers (the key on the driving day). I always love it when a Gringo pops up with a false plate with profanity or something else in bad taste. I have considered a Lexmex plate (nobody cares down here) unless you are locally plated.

Magellan

Yes, I watch Judge Judy all the time. She would ask the defendant for proof that the car had been painted. (“You didn’t bring your documentation? Where did you think you were going today, to a tea party?”) She would then rule the fine must be paid. At no time would she go back and start calling body shops herself.

This is not a jury trail. Both sides in this case consist of the ticketing cop and the defendant. The judge has to prove nothing, nor offer any evidence, other than hearing what the cop has to say. The cop does not have to call any body shops. All the judge has to do is give her official opinion based on the evidence presented to her.

And Judge Judy is very intolerant to those lying in court. That’s what surprised me about your post. You never considered that as important to the discussion.

toy4two

you are wasting your time fighting this ticket. It used to cost me $10 a ticket in Cali, just need to get it signed off. I think its up to $25 now (thanks Gray Davis!).

Just not worth your time to fight it.