What he said. Nothing personal because you have other good threads(well now it’s down to 50-50 :P), but this car is really ridden by the top of the pyramid.
One example is the emperor. This car also appears in the movie “Lost in Translation,” and it was used to transport the “American Star” who got paid 1 mil. doing a commercial for a Japanese liquor company.

"If you are important, people will wait for you," so what if the pony number is not up to the typical super-size me tracker-drag race mentality?

 

Eh. I guess if you're into that sorta styling. It indeed can be very GANGSTERR!! lol.

While watching the animation at toyotajp, I thought they were just showing pics of the old gens (me not being able to read japanese), sorta like a progressing timeline... I waited for the pic of a modern styled car... but NOPE. It is what it is. LOL.

 

Exterior styling is a little dated dash is also dated the rest of the interior looks great suprisingly higher quality than the Lexus LS460L plus its V12 and has alot more room its definitely worth more than 90K plus its built by hand so this makes this car a real bargain. Maybach luxury and hand built quality for a little more than a S550 good deal.

 

What has you under the impression that the luxury 'quotient' of this car is anything close to what is offered in a Maybach?

And hand built cars on average have great perceived quality but poor long term quality due to small inconsistencies in the build methods.

Everybody here seems to 'know' just by looking at the pictures, that this car is super high quality, super luxurious, etc. Either you guys have read a few reviews on this car that I haven't seen, or you're just assuming because it's expensive, hand built, made by toyota, and driven by some high profile asians, that it must be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

lmao!

 

Furthermore, I'd take the new 4.6 V8 found in the current LS than a dated V12 any day.

 

Some features worth mentioning for the Toyota Century:

Exterior:
Hand-crafted Phoenix badge
Special color and painting procedure for Century (5 to choose from)
Conservative design theme that's carried over since the first generation's introduction in 1967
LED tail-light with rear fog light

Interior:
Special highly-breatheable fabric fabric or leather seats
Center mount console between front passenger seats, with rear A/C control, high-mount vent, storage slot for remote control that controls the stereo, DVD, and multi functions
10-way adjustable REAR seats (with memory, separated from left and right seats) including power headrest, cool-fan, and buttons to control the fore-aft location of front passenger seats
Center-portion of the front passenger seat-back can be lowered to create a "pass-through", so the rear passenger can rest his legs on it.
Grab bar attached to the rear of front passenger seats for ease of ingress/egress for rear passengers
3 layers of sound-proof materials in critical noise-control areas.
Reading lamps with adjustable angles
Side and rear cloth curtain

Drivetrain:
V12, 6 Super ECT transmission. 280hp (that's not real), 46.9 kg.m torque (LS460's V8 produce 51 kg.m)
ECU for each bank of engine (2 in total, each controlling 6 cylinders). "Fail Safe" - In case one bank of the engine malfunctions, the car will go into "limp" mode and operate on 6 cylinders

 

Seems to me its more luxurious than the LS460L and being able to lay down completely in the back seat while you sleep and have curtains cover you frm almost all angles is very luxurious.

 

Yeah, imagine that.
Before this thread got closed down, let it go man. Is Vincent van Gogh's works just dabs of paint on paper? Tchaikovsky's music just bunch of metal instruments sounding differently all at the same time? Or why save the baby seals? They are just a bunch of cells grouped into meat and walking under a cloak of fur. Your reason of logic there lacks PASSION. How does that qualify you as an auto-enthusiast?

 

Some tangible things you get what you pay for, a lot of them can be found in your local Wal-Mart. Yet there are just as many things in this world aren’t measured by a strict dollar-mater ratio. For example respect Or the $80,000 4 piece wooden chairs in the living room.

 

"Logic" and "Passion" don't work very well in the same sentence.

But, I got what you are trying to say.

 

Oh shut up

 

OK
OK, though that's rather vague, and special colors is just an exclusivity factor which doesn't add value to me.

So that's a good thing somehow? I guess...

LED tail lights are on entry level sedans starting under 20k these days... that doesn't say much. Rear fog light(s) are pretty pointless but if you really like em Pontiac has had them on most of their models right down to the 15k dollar Grand Am for years.


OK, meaning what? Holes in it with ventilation fans?

Alright so here's a kinda nice feature that has been found on the SUVs and minivans of america for over a decade now at a fraction of the price. Rear climate controls, vents, and rear seat entertainment.
Did you see that remote control, by the way? Looks to be about 10-15 years old in design and function. Very dated looking, not that it's a surprise, but possibly indicative that this car doesn't just 'look' dated, many of the electronics and design functions ARE dated, badly.

That sounds pretty nice but nothing special for today's cars, though usually those functions are found in the front seat, it makes sense this car has them in the back instead since the rich guy is always going to be in the back and the front guy is getting paid to drive with the rich guy's feet jammed into his back side.

Right, like I was saying, sucks for the guy up front driving who's got the soles of your shoes pressed up against his back... lol
Is this an engineering marvel or just a way to kick around your employees?

Yeah I think pretty much every car made 20-30 years ago had those bars too and it looks like they borrowed the exact same 'bars' from those old american cruisers, too.

Which translates to what levels of sound in the cabin? Quieter than the LS460? Quieter than a Honda Accord? Not much to go on here.

Been around for decades

Interesting, though I think I'd rather just have power sun shades like most other cars these days, or maybe even those cool eletrochromatic windows that have dimmable LCD panels between them to allow a 'variable tint' of sorts.
If curtains are your thing maybe you should look at a 30 year old VW micro bus or any other old school conversion van. Hippies loved those curtains.

So you've seen a dyno on this motor showing it makes more than 280hp or just assuming because of the 'gentleman's agreement'? I believe back in 1997 when this engine came out that 280hp was not unheard of low for a V12... didn't the BMW 850 have a V12 made from 1995 to 1999 that only made 320hp despite its sporting intentions?

Yes I remember reading about that 'fail safe' mode in the manual of a 1996 Chevy Silverado pickup truck with the ultra cheap/basic old school 4.3L V6, and since learned many every day vehicles have a failover to a single bank of cylinders in case the engine gets too hot or some other failure occurs.

Point taken, however I suppose this confirms my suspicion and point. Just because somebody creates a limited production run of a given product and attaches a giant price tag to it, doesn't mean it's worth it, or that you aren't passionate or cultured if you don't believe it's worth it at face value.
An original van gogh painting was originally worth nothing, but over the years he became a celebrated artist and due to the limited nature of the works and fact that none more could ever be produced, his original works have experienced the natural escalation of limited supply and high demand.
On the other hand you have a dress designer who tries to make a fancy looking but still very cheap to produce dress, slaps a ridiculous price tag on it that could pay 4 years of college tuition at a major university, convinces a few celebrities to strut down the red carpet with them on, and tries to create artificial value by what some people would call marketing, and I would call, at least in this scenario, deceptive abuse of the human psyche.
Is this Toyota Century a limited production piece of art work that was initially valueless and has since appreciated due to the fact that it can never be truely duplicated again, such as may be a rare mint condition 1960s Mustang? Or is the demand likely artificially inflated by the car being kept in limited production and only being made available to VIPs and others who are wealthy and care more about what they're seen driving not looking the same as everyone else's car?
I'll let you make the call on that.

Does a music enthusiast like all music? I sure know quite a few music enthusiasts that DESPISE the pop industry today because so many talentless clowns are getting signed in because they know the right people and are good looking, which makes them marketable. From there the record companies simply 'create' that person's voice by synthesizing the heck of the crap that comes out of their mouth to make it sound halfway decent, tell them to always lip-sync in live performances, and then play their garbage non-stop on all the corporate owned radio stations, throw up posters and commercials all over TV, radio, magazines, record stores, and the internet, and bam, a star is born.
So ask your same question to those music enthusiasts as to how they can be an enthusiast for music if they don't have passion for ALL music, including the over produced pop records that are put out today?

Anyhow... I'm done with this thread. I understand your points and hopefully you understand mine. My main point is that too many people look at attributes so simple as the brand name, the price tag, and what famous people own one these days, and from there assume it's worth whatever price is put on it.

 

I suggest you should try to move your bed around a little bit. You've been waking up on the wrong side for a long time.

Ok guys, from now on, we should all like whatever Threxx likes, and hate whatever Threxx hates. HEIL THREXX-LER! We should all drive either an A4 or a 4-Runner, just like CHAIRMAN THREXXAO does.

I am really shocked that you are in the restaurant business... Really.

 

Awesome... personal attacks. Way to be a hypocrite and lose your remaining credibility.

Who have I ever told to drive an Audi? I tell most people NOT to drive them since they're poorly made. I just got one because it was a cheap lease deal and kinda fun to beat on.

I'm not in the restaurant business, by the way, I simply own part of one. I'm a network engineer and IT consultant - I live in a world of nothing but logic.

 

No wonder you don't understand other people's "feeling". By the way, "value" and "look" is subjective. You can't use logic trying to tell others that their views of "value" and "look" are not so correct as yours.