Oh, My, Toyota Hybrid Sports Car (merged threads)
12-25-06 | 08:37 AM
#31
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The styling is very polarizing, but that is a good thing. When people see the concept in Detroit, they will either love it or hate it. I remember similar criticism on Internet forums when the LF-A premiered, and yet, worldwide at autoshows the LF-A has received incredible recognition and support.
Personally, I think this concept looks stunning. And looking at the interior pics, hopefully some of you noticed the cockpit design is an evolution of the MK4 Supra
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Also of note, this car shares a few general shapes and styling cues from the LF-A. Another thing is that this is Toyota's 2nd or 3rd hybrid sports car concept, so obviously Toyota isn't doing this just for fun or because they are bored; what it means is that a Toyota-branded sports car is coming in the future in some form.
Personally, I think this concept looks stunning. And looking at the interior pics, hopefully some of you noticed the cockpit design is an evolution of the MK4 Supra
.Also of note, this car shares a few general shapes and styling cues from the LF-A. Another thing is that this is Toyota's 2nd or 3rd hybrid sports car concept, so obviously Toyota isn't doing this just for fun or because they are bored; what it means is that a Toyota-branded sports car is coming in the future in some form
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12-25-06 | 11:37 AM
#32
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Edmunds' coverage of the FT-HS:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=118933
Get this, "the car rides on CARBON-FIBER WHEELS that carry 245/35ZR-21 tires in front and 285/30ZR-21 tires in the rear". Now that's a concept!
(and so much for the mid-$30,000 price tag
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Also, "Toyota's designers also postulate a unique retractable roof, which will slide and then lie down inside the car covering the backseat, rendering the car a two-seater. Thanks to the tiny servo-motors we see in motorized hardtops these days, perhaps anything is possible, and the top is functional on the concept car."
So it's a hardtop convertible too, folks!
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=118933
Get this, "the car rides on CARBON-FIBER WHEELS that carry 245/35ZR-21 tires in front and 285/30ZR-21 tires in the rear". Now that's a concept!
(and so much for the mid-$30,000 price tag )Also, "Toyota's designers also postulate a unique retractable roof, which will slide and then lie down inside the car covering the backseat, rendering the car a two-seater. Thanks to the tiny servo-motors we see in motorized hardtops these days, perhaps anything is possible, and the top is functional on the concept car."
So it's a hardtop convertible too, folks!
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12-25-06 | 12:25 PM
#33
Man, such NEGATIVE people on this thread... I keep getting the idea of antiClubLexus nowadays...
you complain about Toyota not making a sports car of any sort; then when info is delivered about it; you totally bash it. For one, this is obviously a concept. Two, not everything has to look like a BMW 3-series or Audi to be appealing.
I like the car; you can see the idea someone is going for. The 2GR-FSE already makes outstanding power... use your brains. If Toyota shifts the torqueband even further up the scale with a near-stock GR, they can use an electric motor to make up for the loss of lower-end torque and have a very wide and powerful powerband.
400hp is most definitely doable for that price.... just because BMW can't do it, doesnt mean it can't be done
Most of you do nothing but complain nowadays; its all I hear is people complaining about crap just for the sake of complaining. Its friggin Christmas Day so shut yer yap and be happy that MAYBE toyota might release this kind of car.
you complain about Toyota not making a sports car of any sort; then when info is delivered about it; you totally bash it. For one, this is obviously a concept. Two, not everything has to look like a BMW 3-series or Audi to be appealing.
I like the car; you can see the idea someone is going for. The 2GR-FSE already makes outstanding power... use your brains. If Toyota shifts the torqueband even further up the scale with a near-stock GR, they can use an electric motor to make up for the loss of lower-end torque and have a very wide and powerful powerband.
400hp is most definitely doable for that price.... just because BMW can't do it, doesnt mean it can't be done
Most of you do nothing but complain nowadays; its all I hear is people complaining about crap just for the sake of complaining. Its friggin Christmas Day so shut yer yap and be happy that MAYBE toyota might release this kind of car.
Looks almost identical to a GTR
12-25-06 | 02:05 PM
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Many cars before the GT-R Proto had air inlets and intakes on the fenders, as well as blacked out pillars. The GT-R then looks like a lot of those cars . Besides, the GT-R overall has a very "bulky" and substantial visual presence to it, while the FT-HS has a more sleek, sharp, and "lightweight" visual presence to it.
If anything, the FT-HS looks more like the LF-A than the GT-R.
. Besides, the GT-R overall has a very "bulky" and substantial visual presence to it, while the FT-HS has a more sleek, sharp, and "lightweight" visual presence to it. If anything, the FT-HS looks more like the LF-A than the GT-R.
12-25-06 | 08:21 PM
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Ehh....a fully loaded Civic Si will cost u $25K+.......
It's not complaining....we r talking about the realistic price.
It's not complaining....we r talking about the realistic price.
400hp is most definitely doable for that price.... just because BMW can't do it, doesnt mean it can't be done Most of you do nothing but complain nowadays; its all I hear is people complaining about crap just for the sake of complaining. Its friggin Christmas Day so shut yer yap and be happy that MAYBE toyota might release this kind of car.
Most of you do nothing but complain nowadays; its all I hear is people complaining about crap just for the sake of complaining. Its friggin Christmas Day so shut yer yap and be happy that MAYBE toyota might release this kind of car.
12-26-06 | 07:52 AM
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Price
The price of <$40,000 does seem kind of low but if you think about it, it has to cost less than a GS 450h so Toyota is kind of boxed in considering price. That said, I am sure like other Toyotas you will not find one @ such a low price: once you add all the options like side curtain air bags, the price will be much higher.
12-26-06 | 08:07 AM
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The price of <$40,000 does seem kind of low but if you think about it, it has to cost less than a GS 450h so Toyota is kind of boxed in considering price. That said, I am sure like other Toyotas you will not find one @ such a low price: once you add all the options like side curtain air bags, the price will be much higher.
12-26-06 | 09:59 AM
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Common sense. Toyota says if this were to be put into production, it would cost about $35,000 to build. Why is it so ridiculous? Obviously the interior will be more production based, and it won't have exotic items like carbon fiber wheels. But consider that the IS350 starts at 36K, and that's a luxury car.
A production version of this car would certainly be less luxurious than an IS350, and would be a 350Z competitor. And the hybrid components would only add about 2 - 4K to the total cost of the car.
A production version of this car would certainly be less luxurious than an IS350, and would be a 350Z competitor. And the hybrid components would only add about 2 - 4K to the total cost of the car.
12-26-06 | 10:06 AM
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Common sense. Toyota says if this were to be put into production, it would cost about $35,000 to build. Why is it so ridiculous? Obviously the interior will be more production based, and it won't have exotic items like carbon fiber wheels. But consider that the IS350 starts at 36K, and that's a luxury car.
A production version of this car would certainly be less luxurious than an IS350, and would be a 350Z competitor. And the hybrid components would only add about 2 - 4K to the total cost of the car.
A production version of this car would certainly be less luxurious than an IS350, and would be a 350Z competitor. And the hybrid components would only add about 2 - 4K to the total cost of the car.
IF the $35k pricing is true, then it's more than likely they won't use the super powerful electric motors on the FT-HS, but instead share the same system with GS450h for the production car.
12-26-06 | 03:33 PM
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WAY too cheap for a 400hp hybrid. I would buy one in a second if it were true. My money is it will come out with half that hp.
Toyota doesn't even have a 400hp hybrid motor, and I bet it would show up in a Lexus first.
That kind of hp would hurt their other sales of LF-A or the next Supra.
Good one on "is that the next Supra?", like the 100th NSX concept we've all just been shown, <yawn>.
Toyota doesn't even have a 400hp hybrid motor, and I bet it would show up in a Lexus first.
That kind of hp would hurt their other sales of LF-A or the next Supra.
Good one on "is that the next Supra?", like the 100th NSX concept we've all just been shown, <yawn>.