2008 Infiniti QX56
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I just could not believe the reliability for the qx is that bad. So, i tool a look at consumer reports, and ALL of the infinities are rated well above average----EXCEPT the qx56, which is rated at the very bottom. Hare to believe based on all the other infinities great reliability ratings. Why are all the others so good, but this model is so damn poor???
Please forgive me, and I'm not trying to be a jerk about this either. But...
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LOL....my mistake. I was typing so fast I never thought about that. My bad. Oh well. All the same, can anyone tell me why just the qx56 is so bad, and not the other infinitys????
sorry again about the horrible spelling...no excuses-- i even work as a doctor and i still cant spell!!!
sorry again about the horrible spelling...no excuses-- i even work as a doctor and i still cant spell!!!
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LOL....my mistake. I was typing so fast I never thought about that. My bad. Oh well. All the same, can anyone tell me why just the qx56 is so bad, and not the other infinitys????
sorry again about the horrible spelling...no excuses-- i even work as a doctor and i still cant spell!!!
sorry again about the horrible spelling...no excuses-- i even work as a doctor and i still cant spell!!!
The Armada is built in a new plant in Canton, Mississippi which has been plauged with quality problems from the start. It got so bad, they shipped 100 top engineers from Japan to Canton to see what is the problem. They said "it is b/c the workers wear jewelry".
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Terrible business decision, as this was a huge opportunity for Infiniti to keep some new owners and instead the backlash has been huge. Also, Lexus has the much older and smaller LX, so this was a huge opportunity to steal Lexus sales. Nissan has stated the next generation QX and Quest will be built in Japan. It will be too late by then, as the next LX 570 will be out and expect NO LESS than a LS 460 type SUV.
Infiniti's quality is good but has dropped in recent years, no longer #2 behind Lexus. The G35 M35/45 and FX 35/45 are built in Japan. They are still in the top 10 in quality and I believe every product outside the QX has above average quality according to consumer reports.
Now you may ask yourself "isn't the Lexus RX built in Canada"? Yes, over 70,000 were built in Canada last year. However, Lexus went thought GREAT lengths to ensure you cannot tell the build difference between a JDM and a Canadian built RX. So the problem lies with MANAGEMENT, not the workers. The RX has continued to be best in class in quality.
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Trust me I'm no authority, I've been corrected here many times on the same name spelling it with a y' at the end, and now I'm all extra sensitive to it thanks to this place hehe.
As to your question, what he said... see above post.
As to your question, what he said... see above post.
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( Just be thankful Mr. Ghosn didn't send RENAULT engineers
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Like you, I don't know what jewelry would have to do with it except that maybe cheap jewelry parts on things like bracelets, necklaces, rings, watches, etc.....work loose, fall off, and mess up machines and equipment, causing them to go out of production tolerances.
Infiniti's quality is good but has dropped in recent years, no longer #2 behind Lexus. The G35 M35/45 and FX 35/45 are built in Japan. They are still in the top 10 in quality and I believe every product outside the QX has above average quality according to consumer reports.
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No Japanese company paints a car like Lexus. Audi, Porsche, and MB all have superior paint jobs in terms of overall quality, hardness, thickness, lack of orange peel, etc. (that's ignoring MB's ceramiclear paint which is of course pretty much the best on the market).
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Now...specifically among the German brands, IMO, Porsche does paint the smoothest, and Audi has the best gloss ( agree with you there, 1SICK
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Guess it is just the different opinion of different eyes. I agree with you guys that the premium German cars do paint very well. But for smoothness and gloss combined, to my eyes, Lexus does it best....and Lexus does not charge extra for metallics and certain colors like the Germans do, which IMO is a rip-off. Mercedes has even forced that policy on Dodge and Chrysler.
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Guess it is just the different opinion of different eyes. I agree with you guys that the premium German cars do paint very well. But for smoothness and gloss combined, and for an overall superb paint job, to my eyes, Lexus does it best....and Lexus does not charge extra for metallics and certain colors like the Germans do, which IMO is a rip-off. Mercedes has even forced that policy on Dodge and Chrysler.
Now...specifically among the German brands, IMO, Porsche does paint the smoothest, and Audi has the best gloss ( agree with you there, 1SICK
). Mercedes paint, like many of the other things on its vehicles, seems to have deteriorated in recent years, but is still above average....about on a par with BMW's.
Now...specifically among the German brands, IMO, Porsche does paint the smoothest, and Audi has the best gloss ( agree with you there, 1SICK
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The downfall of Lexus paint is that it is simultaneously soft and thin. While the orange peel is low, and there is a good distribution of metallic flake and good gloss, the actual process itself causes the paint to be on the soft side of average. It marrs to easily and picks up stone chips quickly. When I see a Lexus that has not been washed properly for a few years it is always in much worse shape than a similarly treated Audi or Mercedes. This is the same reason BMW paint is below average, added to the fact that BMW's have a downright stupid amount of orange peel.
The reason Audi has the best standard paint in the industry is that they have incredibly hard and durable paint which is generally a few microns thicker than most, combined with the general lack of orange peel and good gloss. Standard Mercedes paint is ok, but the ceramiclear is outstanding. Of course you get what you pay for in that case. Cheers.
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(oh, and to bring this back on topic, Infiniti has some of the worst paint in the industry!)
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For example:
All Infinitis (plural) are fast since it is Infiniti's (possessive) policy to put big engines in their cars.
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(oh, and to bring this back on topic, Infiniti has some of the worst paint in the industry!)
I would have thought that GM was the worst, have you seen their silver, particularly the SUV's? In direct sun light you can see the lack of consistency in the color, it goes light to dark, light to dark as though they only put on a single coat of paint.