GS3Tek

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I wonder if we can get Lexus to do that for the GS guys
Can someone paste the whole page rather than having to click on the link?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070119/.../toyota_recall

rosskoss

Is there no end to this recall madness from Toyota?

mavericck

Reminds me of VW of old.

rosskoss

They need to stop pursuing this massive expansion drive and concentrate more on fixing their quality problems.

TRDFantasy

What about the GS? Is there a ball-joint problem?

TRDFantasy

Many Tundra owners will be happy about this, as this has been an annoying problem. Toyota recalled earlier model years of the Tundra for basically the same problem, and is now recalling newer model year Tundras and Sequoias.

This might look bad, but Toyota's recalls are on track to drop, and it seems like Toyota is recalling cars for just about every problem it can find. This has less to do with Toyota being forced by the NHTSA or lawsuits to conduct a recall like some other automakers often are, and it has more to do with them recalling for as many potential problems or on-going problems they can find.

Toyota seems even more paranoid about quality now, and to elevate it's quality reputation higher than ever before. Toyota is taking it's time on several new or redesigned models to ensure quality is top-notch. The auto industry could definitely use a bit of a break from Toyota and it's relentless competitiveness.

ES350Bob

This may be what caused the accidents, which is a little more involved than the PR guy's comments of difficulty steering. Does anyone yet know what the fix is?

Summary:
2006 TOYOTA TUNDRA - BALL JOINT FAILURE CAUSING BALL JOINT TO BREAK AND WHEEL TO COME OFF. THIS ALSO DAMAGES THE FENDER ON WHICH EVER SIDE THE BALL JOINT BREAKS. TOYOTA ADDED MORE BOLTS AND PIECES TO THE BALL JOINT BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE THE JOINT STRONGER AND COULD HAPPEN QUIET FREQUENTLY UNTIL THE PROBLEM IS RESOLVED BY TOYOTA. IT STARTS WITH THE STEERING BECOMING HARD TO HANDLE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR WHEEL FALLS OFF. THANKFULLY WE WERE IN A PARKING LOT WHEN THIS HAPPENED AND NOT GOING VERY FAST. *JB
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...aintsearch.cfm

Make:
TOYOTA

Model:
TUNDRA

Year:
2006

ES350Bob

How do you figure Tundra and Sequoia owners are going to be happy about this? Seems the only happy ones will be those who planned on getting the release for next month because by the time they get their new vehicle the fix will be in it.

People won't be thrilled at all to discover their wheel could fall off or with just the hassle of going through a recall.

I am happy it seems nobody was killed and I HOPE the injuries indicated were minor.

And further hope the gentleman who strted this thread is mistaken about this being something affecting the GS owners.

sdbrandon

+1 You hit the nail on the head. Toyota is following in GM's footsteps. They need to be careful.

Quality always loses out to quantity. In addition cars start to share more components and look more alike.

UDel

Yes, there is a lower ball joint problem with the 2nd Gen GS. Look at the 2nd GS forums and you will see it come up alot with ball joints needing replacement prematurely often before 100K miles and a few of them failing causing suspension damage and possible accidents. Toyota/Lexus should do the right thing and engineer ones that will last on the GS and replace them free of charge as lower ball joint failure can lead to serious accidents and thousands of dollars worth of damage and owners should not have to pay out of their pocket to do this. They really should be designed to last the life of the car or at least 300K miles since there are serious consequences with their failure and it is sometimes difficult to determine if they need replacing unless you take them off the car and inspect them which is a pain to do.

mavericck

That sounds rather bad....Does anyone know of any problems that will take place on the LS before the 100k mark? BTW I have an 04' LS.

spwolf

i would think they would be happy for getting the fix for their problems... or not?

p.s.

Recalls in 2006:

Chrysler #1 with 2.3 million vehicles
Ford #2 with 1.7 million vehicles
GM #3 nearly 1.4 million
Nissan #4 1.3 million cars
Toyota recalled 814,507 vehicles in
2006 by NHTSA's data, nearly two-thirds less than a year earlier.

just to put things into perspective here...

sdbrandon

Toyota has over 9 million the last three years which averages out to 3 million per year. However, I am not sure of Chryslers past few years. They could be higher.

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...tos+index+page

spwolf

Really? Lets look:

yr MFG Affected
2000 Ford 7,091,466
2000 Chrysler6,700,198
2000 GM 5,671,382
2000 Nissan 449,668
2000 Honda 425,948
2000 Toyota 24,851

yr MFG Affected
2001 Ford 6,032,054
2001 Chrysler2,609,345
2001 GM 2,495,884
2001 Nissan 453,015
2001 Honda 290,193
2001 Toyota 158,259

yr MFG Affected
2002 Chrysler6,413,130
2002 GM 4,554,046
2002 Ford 2,322,197
2002 Honda 1,080,620
2002 Nissan 646,298
2002 Toyota 496,389

yr MFG Affected
2003 GM 7,158,299
2003 Ford 3,409,077
2003 Chrysler2,059,277
2003 Nissan 1,995,524
2003 Honda 910,732
2003 Toyota 212,252

yr MFG Affected
2004 GM 10,734,790
2004 Chrysler5,819,380
2004 Ford 5,035,596
2004 Honda 2,135,070
2004 Toyota 1,132,334
2004 Nissan 723,891


yr MFG Affected
2005 Ford 6,005,309
2005 GM 4,998,181
2005 Toyota 2,374,162
2005 Chrysler765,777
2005 Honda 730,042
2005 Nissan 709,838


When you say 9 million over last 3 years, thats worldwide number, not US number...

spwolf

So Last 3 years, recalls, NTHSA stats:

GM: 17,1
Ford: 12.7
Chrysler: 8.8
Toyota: 4.2 mil
Honda: 3
Nissan: 2,7

If we make it 5 years, Toyota ranks lowest of top 6 manufacturers in the USA.

Just to put things into perspective, since lots of people tend to post crazy numbers.