What SUVs excel at both luxury and off-roading?
01-21-07, 11:02 AM
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No, I disagree. The QX56 comes from a plant that is notorious for quality problems, has reliability down in Land Rover's area, and, unlike Land Rovers, doesn't provide either the comfort or the capability off-road that they do.The QX56 is a good people-mover ( when not in the shop ), and, like the Armada-Titan it is based on, can tow relatively heavy loads, but it is not considered one of the better off-roaders for its size.
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01-21-07, 11:07 AM
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The soon-to-be-discontinued Mercedes G (Gelandewagen)-Wagon is superb off-road, with three electric-locking differentials, and the body, frame, and doors are like bank vaults ( I'm not kidding ) but, as a vehicle originally of German-Austrian military design, tends to have a stiff ride on dry pavement. But its durability is incredible, and being basically of the 1980's Mercedes generation, has NOT had the reliability problems that other recent M-B designs have.
01-21-07, 11:15 AM
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You'll have to talk with the M-B people for details, but as I understand it, the days of the G-Wagen being sold in the U.S. are numbered. It is being replaced by the new G-Class SUV that is not derived from a military source like the old G-Wagen was. It is basically a slightly bigger brother to the M-Class.
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01-21-07, 12:20 PM
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I really like the RR and the GX and think both are wonderful contenders.
The GL ain't too bad either. I don't believe this particular GL in the video has the off-road package either, so that means no low range.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6J6usLRz8Q
The GL ain't too bad either. I don't believe this particular GL in the video has the off-road package either, so that means no low range.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6J6usLRz8Q
01-21-07, 12:22 PM
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No, I disagree. The QX56 comes from a plant that is notorious for quality problems, has reliability down in Land Rover's area, and, unlike Land Rovers, doesn't provide either the comfort or the capability off-road that they do.The QX56 is a good people-mover ( when not in the shop ), and, like the Armada-Titan it is based on, can tow relatively heavy loads, but it is not considered one of the better off-roaders for its size.
mmarshall is right on the money, QX=POS.
01-21-07, 01:04 PM
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I hate suv's and don't know much about them. I never read write-ups and have only driven one maybe twice as rentals. Even I know which bes fits the criteria of off-roading ability with luxury...the Range Rover baby. I've been inside for a look and that thing is very luxurious. I hear it rides like a luxury car and can take any terrain. Only bad thing I heard is poor reliability...along the lines of the german cars.
01-21-07, 01:54 PM
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Next thing, you will tell us BMW invented the Toyota production method
01-21-07, 02:34 PM
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01-21-07, 02:49 PM
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And I took a test ride in all of them before going with the GX.
And the rear barn door comes in very handy. I don't have to lower a large door with over assisted springs holding it up. Just close it like any of the other 4 doors. Now when they redesign the GX and it has a powered liftgate, then that would probably change my mind. But then I would have to stand there and wait for the thing to open and then close on its own. You can't win.
01-21-07, 03:31 PM
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What real SUV does feel real stable like a car in the turns??? Answer - none.
And I took a test ride in all of them before going with the GX.
And the rear barn door comes in very handy. I don't have to lower a large door with over assisted springs holding it up. Just close it like any of the other 4 doors. Now when they redesign the GX and it has a powered liftgate, then that would probably change my mind. But then I would have to stand there and wait for the thing to open and then close on its own. You can't win.
And I took a test ride in all of them before going with the GX.
And the rear barn door comes in very handy. I don't have to lower a large door with over assisted springs holding it up. Just close it like any of the other 4 doors. Now when they redesign the GX and it has a powered liftgate, then that would probably change my mind. But then I would have to stand there and wait for the thing to open and then close on its own. You can't win.
Take a look at these videos to find some SUV's that don't feel like your going to wear them as a hat when you take a corner at a moderate amount of speed:
MB ML: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2khQtpaHMdQ
Porsche Cayenne:
1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_2a5zTI2LI
2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CySTh...elated&search=
Range Rover Sport:
1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Yrk...elated&search=
2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF2Ys...elated&search=
There are others but I don't feel like finding, posting, and linking any more videos.
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