Feb 07 C&D Family Sedan Comparo
01-27-07, 10:49 AM
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However, even the Ford Fusion poll (which nobody seems to like here - and no was not done by C&D like their other ones) people preferred the Accord over the Camry - oh and the Accord outsells the Camry when you take out fleet sales - so even individual customers prefer it over the Camry!!!!
01-27-07, 11:03 AM
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My mistake on the 03.
However, even the Ford Fusion poll (which nobody seems to like here - and no was not done by C&D like their other ones) people preferred the Accord over the Camry - oh and the Accord outsells the Camry when you take out fleet sales - so even individual customers prefer it over the Camry!!!!
However, even the Ford Fusion poll (which nobody seems to like here - and no was not done by C&D like their other ones) people preferred the Accord over the Camry - oh and the Accord outsells the Camry when you take out fleet sales - so even individual customers prefer it over the Camry!!!!
second, I don't think the Suburu plant has begun building Camries yet.
third, you assume the new Camry is being sold to fleets at the same level as the previous model.
C&D writes like the Accord is a perfect car, the reality is far from it. Actually I owned the 02 Accord before someone totaled it. And I much prefered the 02 Accord's interior (excluding the audio) and heavier steering compared to the 03 Accord's.
From my experience the new Camry is the best car for the money. Anything cheaper is an econobox, and anything more expensive suffers from the laws of dimishining returns. Quite frankly I don't consider the Accord to be in the same league as the new Camry.
01-27-07, 11:15 AM
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okay, first the Camry sold 39,539 vs the Accord's 29,886 last December.
second, I don't think the Suburu plant has begun building Camries yet.
third, you assume the new Camry is being sold to fleets at the same level as the previous model.
C&D writes like the Accord is a perfect car, the reality is far from it. Actually I owned the 02 Accord before someone totaled it. And I much prefered the 02 Accord's interior (excluding the audio) and heavier steering compared to the 03 Accord's.
From my experience the new Camry is the best car for the money. Anything cheaper is an econobox, and anything more expensive suffers from the laws of dimishining returns. Quite frankly I don't consider the Accord to be in the same league as the new Camry.
second, I don't think the Suburu plant has begun building Camries yet.
third, you assume the new Camry is being sold to fleets at the same level as the previous model.
C&D writes like the Accord is a perfect car, the reality is far from it. Actually I owned the 02 Accord before someone totaled it. And I much prefered the 02 Accord's interior (excluding the audio) and heavier steering compared to the 03 Accord's.
From my experience the new Camry is the best car for the money. Anything cheaper is an econobox, and anything more expensive suffers from the laws of dimishining returns. Quite frankly I don't consider the Accord to be in the same league as the new Camry.
You may not like the Accord, but let's face it, it provides a more rewarding experience for the driver and as you will see below - the mag is called Car & DRIVER.
Or maybe Car & DRIVER - cares more about how cars drive?
01-27-07, 11:21 AM
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Remember this review is judged by humans just like you and me. They all have their preferences. Car and driver is more concerned with performance/driving than most anything else. If you want a review for bang for the buck, quietness, etc, then Consumer Reports is what you'll want to look at, not C&D.
Thats why no one should care who wins first because you're ultimately going to buy a car based on your needs, not on what the journalists say.
01-27-07, 11:25 AM
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okay, first the Camry sold 39,539 vs the Accord's 29,886 last December.
second, I don't think the Suburu plant has begun building Camries yet.
third, you assume the new Camry is being sold to fleets at the same level as the previous model.
C&D writes like the Accord is a perfect car, the reality is far from it. Actually I owned the 02 Accord before someone totaled it. And I much prefered the 02 Accord's interior (excluding the audio) and heavier steering compared to the 03 Accord's.
From my experience the new Camry is the best car for the money. Anything cheaper is an econobox, and anything more expensive suffers from the laws of dimishining returns. Quite frankly I don't consider the Accord to be in the same league as the new Camry.
second, I don't think the Suburu plant has begun building Camries yet.
third, you assume the new Camry is being sold to fleets at the same level as the previous model.
C&D writes like the Accord is a perfect car, the reality is far from it. Actually I owned the 02 Accord before someone totaled it. And I much prefered the 02 Accord's interior (excluding the audio) and heavier steering compared to the 03 Accord's.
From my experience the new Camry is the best car for the money. Anything cheaper is an econobox, and anything more expensive suffers from the laws of dimishining returns. Quite frankly I don't consider the Accord to be in the same league as the new Camry.
The accord is on its last straw. The Camry had just came out less than a year ago. I would hope that the Camry outsells a car that is on its last year. We'll have to compare the results once the 8th gen accord comes out.
I wouldn't expect the Camry's fleet sale to change dramatically. Fleet owners love the camry for their dependability. They're going to buy a lot of camrys regardless. Honda on the other hand, do not sale to fleet, and if they do, it's a very very very small number (less than 800 last year I believe..i'll have to check up on that).
01-27-07, 01:06 PM
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The consumers are telling the truth 
For the last 5 years or more, The Camry has always been the number one seller, but Toyota commercial doesn't tell you that they factored in fleet sale. Consumers, like you and i, buy more accords than camrys. Now if I could only find that info again
For the last 5 years or more, The Camry has always been the number one seller, but Toyota commercial doesn't tell you that they factored in fleet sale. Consumers, like you and i, buy more accords than camrys. Now if I could only find that info again
01-27-07, 01:20 PM
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These are family cars. Not sure why some mags want you to think they are sports cars. LMAO.
I'm worried about space, trunk room and the newest tech and safety.
I'm going for the Camry. The Accord is 5 years old. Clearly, it holds more than its own but I am not buying an Accord b/c its sporty.
I'm worried about space, trunk room and the newest tech and safety.
I'm going for the Camry. The Accord is 5 years old. Clearly, it holds more than its own but I am not buying an Accord b/c its sporty.
01-27-07, 01:32 PM
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C&D often puts the emphasis of their reviews on aspects the average consumer doesn't give a flying crap about; this one is no different. My mom never complained about her Corollas "non-responsive steering" or oversteer, all she cares about is that it's reliable, quick enough, gets good mpg, and carries all her stuff . 
01-27-07, 01:59 PM
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The consumers are telling the truth
For the last 5 years or more, The Camry has always been the number one seller, but Toyota commercial doesn't tell you that they factored in fleet sale. Consumers, like you and i, buy more accords than camrys. Now if I could only find that info again
For the last 5 years or more, The Camry has always been the number one seller, but Toyota commercial doesn't tell you that they factored in fleet sale. Consumers, like you and i, buy more accords than camrys. Now if I could only find that info again
01-27-07, 02:01 PM
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