doug_999

Damn Mike you are QUICK (That's what she said...)



I put the wrong one in there - I have now corrected it.

Was simple to find -just searched on doug_999 and Where Did you Find

F1Driver

You're both wrong. According to the link above for 2006. When you take out fleet sales for the Camry (which is 12.9%). The Camry still outsells the Accord (Camry = about 390k vs. Accord = about 354k [this is with 1.1% fleet sales included]). So the retail consumers still choose Camry over Accord. Nice try Honda but no cigar. Back to the drawing board, you loser.

newr

the opposite applies on the Honda forum

Mr. Jones. Don't you think it's about time to trade your 03 Accord for a new Camry.

GSteg

iTrader: (15)

I agree. which is why I dont hang around Honda forums.

spwolf

When Honda didnt win in C&D comparo, really?

-J-P-L-

Car mags almost always choose the best driving car for their #1 spot.
This is why BMW has always been the king of auto comparos. Doesn't matter if the car falls apart over night, is too expensive, is ugly, ect... If it has the best driving dynamics then it's good enough for them.

Fortunately, this isn't how most people choose a car.

spwolf

yep, even when it doesnt start, eh? :-)

DrUnBiased

Another thing to consider regarding Camry sales (aside for Fleet sales) is the fact that Toyota combines the sales of both the Solara coupe and convertible with the Camry sedans. The Accord has only two major variants vs. the Camry's three major different body styles.

I think the most important question that should be answered is who sells the most sedan version of each car.

mmarshall

Agreed.....but Hyundai is no longer in those rearview mirrors. It is now in the windshield.

This comparo is typical C&D......same general style they have been using for the last 25-30 years. The winners usually are the closest to emulate BMW-style cornering and steering, and anything less than that is considered AARP Buick.
C&D, like most "enthusiast" magazines, is into aggressive driving.......so, of course, they want aggressive machines, even in the family-sedan category.

-J-P-L-

To those asking why certain models weren't included...

Well, if they included every sedan in this class there would be like 20 cars at least. It's a crowded segment, they can't all be there.

Why not Passat? The Jetta would probably fit in with this class more than the Passat. The Passat is usually pricey which would go against Maxima, Avalon, Chrysler 300, ect.

mavericck

This notion that the Passat is too pricey is a little bit ill-conceived. You can get a 4-cylinder Passat for around the same price as a similarly equipped 4-cylinder Camry. Low-mid 20k'. So that argument doesn't really hold too much water anymore.

-J-P-L-

The Passat's base model's MSRP is: $22,960 - $24,035

The Camry's base model's MSRP is: $18,470 - $19,520

Both prices are for the cheapest 4 cyl. model available.

They can compete but the Passat is no doubt thousands more.

I looked at Jetta's pricing, and they can reach an msrp of $25,065 (4 cyl.)

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

The Camry is a fine car. It's great for those who hate cars but need reliable and practical transportation - and that's a ton of people! Its looks have grown on me some, but not the interior, which to me looks CHEAP.

And the driving experience would get old to me. It gets you there, but Honda still understands (as does BMW even more so) that some drivers want a car to feel competent, not just be reliable.

The Camry has become a reliable Chevy. Boring, sloppy, but highly reliable.

LexFather

Yall are a trip, comparing driving dynamics of these cars. 3 pages. wow!

mavericck

I said comparable equipped (that means similar options and standard equipment) not base models. Of course you can get an even more stripped down Camry, hence its' base CE price.

The XLE 4-cylinder and the Passat 4-cylinder with a couple options compare quite nicely. Similarly equipped they are both around $24k-$25k.