Feb 07 C&D Family Sedan Comparo
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The reason why I say "who cares if the accord wins first" is because it's a magazine comparison. If an accord wins first, people will say C&D is biased and that they do not know a thing about cars. If the Camry wins, the biased comments and such are suddenly disregarded and then the camry gets congratulated.
Mr. Jones. Don't you think it's about time to trade your 03 Accord for a new Camry.
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Car mags almost always choose the best driving car for their #1 spot.
This is why BMW has always been the king of auto comparos. Doesn't matter if the car falls apart over night, is too expensive, is ugly, ect... If it has the best driving dynamics then it's good enough for them.
Fortunately, this isn't how most people choose a car.
This is why BMW has always been the king of auto comparos. Doesn't matter if the car falls apart over night, is too expensive, is ugly, ect... If it has the best driving dynamics then it's good enough for them.
Fortunately, this isn't how most people choose a car.
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Car mags almost always choose the best driving car for their #1 spot.
This is why BMW has always been the king of auto comparos. Doesn't matter if the car falls apart over night, is too expensive, is ugly, ect... If it has the best driving dynamics then it's good enough for them.
Fortunately, this isn't how most people choose a car.
This is why BMW has always been the king of auto comparos. Doesn't matter if the car falls apart over night, is too expensive, is ugly, ect... If it has the best driving dynamics then it's good enough for them.
Fortunately, this isn't how most people choose a car.
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Another thing to consider regarding Camry sales (aside for Fleet sales) is the fact that Toyota combines the sales of both the Solara coupe and convertible with the Camry sedans. The Accord has only two major variants vs. the Camry's three major different body styles.
I think the most important question that should be answered is who sells the most sedan version of each car.
I think the most important question that should be answered is who sells the most sedan version of each car.
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This comparo is typical C&D......same general style they have been using for the last 25-30 years. The winners usually are the closest to emulate BMW-style cornering and steering, and anything less than that is considered AARP Buick.
C&D, like most "enthusiast" magazines, is into aggressive driving.......so, of course, they want aggressive machines, even in the family-sedan category.
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To those asking why certain models weren't included...
Well, if they included every sedan in this class there would be like 20 cars at least. It's a crowded segment, they can't all be there.
Why not Passat? The Jetta would probably fit in with this class more than the Passat. The Passat is usually pricey which would go against Maxima, Avalon, Chrysler 300, ect.
Well, if they included every sedan in this class there would be like 20 cars at least. It's a crowded segment, they can't all be there.
Why not Passat? The Jetta would probably fit in with this class more than the Passat. The Passat is usually pricey which would go against Maxima, Avalon, Chrysler 300, ect.
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To those asking why certain models weren't included...
Well, if they included every sedan in this class there would be like 20 cars at least. It's a crowded segment, they can't all be there.
Why not Passat? The Jetta would probably fit in with this class more than the Passat. The Passat is usually pricey which would go against Maxima, Avalon, Chrysler 300, ect.
Well, if they included every sedan in this class there would be like 20 cars at least. It's a crowded segment, they can't all be there.
Why not Passat? The Jetta would probably fit in with this class more than the Passat. The Passat is usually pricey which would go against Maxima, Avalon, Chrysler 300, ect.
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The Camry's base model's MSRP is: $18,470 - $19,520
Both prices are for the cheapest 4 cyl. model available.
They can compete but the Passat is no doubt thousands more.
I looked at Jetta's pricing, and they can reach an msrp of $25,065 (4 cyl.)
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The Camry is a fine car. It's great for those who hate cars but need reliable and practical transportation - and that's a ton of people! Its looks have grown on me some, but not the interior, which to me looks CHEAP.
And the driving experience would get old to me. It gets you there, but Honda still understands (as does BMW even more so) that some drivers want a car to feel competent, not just be reliable.
The Camry has become a reliable Chevy. Boring, sloppy, but highly reliable.
And the driving experience would get old to me. It gets you there, but Honda still understands (as does BMW even more so) that some drivers want a car to feel competent, not just be reliable.
The Camry has become a reliable Chevy. Boring, sloppy, but highly reliable.
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Its handling — rolling, floppy, understeer always ready to douse any rising red mist — elicits no emotion other than jejune boredom. It is A to B boiled down to ones and zeros.
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The Passat's base model's MSRP is: $22,960 - $24,035
The Camry's base model's MSRP is: $18,470 - $19,520
Both prices are for the cheapest 4 cyl. model available.
They can compete but the Passat is no doubt thousands more.
I looked at Jetta's pricing, and they can reach an msrp of $25,065 (4 cyl.)
The Camry's base model's MSRP is: $18,470 - $19,520
Both prices are for the cheapest 4 cyl. model available.
They can compete but the Passat is no doubt thousands more.
I looked at Jetta's pricing, and they can reach an msrp of $25,065 (4 cyl.)
I said comparable equipped (that means similar options and standard equipment) not base models. Of course you can get an even more stripped down Camry, hence its' base CE price.
The XLE 4-cylinder and the Passat 4-cylinder with a couple options compare quite nicely. Similarly equipped they are both around $24k-$25k.