Video: 997 Turbo vs AMG S63

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02-05-07, 08:39 PM

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Wow amazing performance. Sadly both are bigger and uglier.

02-05-07, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartawan

Did you guys notice how the AMG was not able to get traction on the wet track?

a car of that size? it's doing pretty good job already i think. get one without traction control and see what happens

02-06-07, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mavericck

I thought turbo cars usually do better in thinner air than N/A ones due to their better ability to suck in air. At least that's my experience when going over mountain passes.

P.S. what kind of times do you usually see at your altitude?

True, they won't lose as much as say my RX300, but there still is lag up here.

I will tell you that V8s seem to hold their own up here, and I ran a new 4Runner down to 16.9 (however we did strip out weight, such as tire, jack, get gas very low) once after a friend from a Toyota dealer brought one over. That is impressive for up here.

I have only seen Porsche turbos of any kind clock 14s (noted below) at my altitude, 7,411 feet at the track starting line. I figure a better drive could hit high 13s.

Here is a list I took off of my site below, with abbreviated comments:

Blower (w/NOS) Chevy Malibu: 10.2 (owned by track part owner Mauricio)
Turbocharged 1956 VW Beetle: 10.3 (Grillos Racing)
Turbocharged 1973 VW Beetle: 11.9 (Grillos Racing)
Dodge Neon SRT-4 Stage 3: 12.1
VW Golf MKII turbo: 12.3
Chevy Pop Turbo: 12.8 (think of a modern day Chevette turbocharged)
My buddy Michael's modified 400 hp 1993 Mazda RX-7: 13.4
Dodge Neon SRT-4 Stage 2: 13.6
Dodge Neon SRT-4: 13.7
Seat Leon Cupra: 14.1 (very modified)
New Porsche Carrera Turbo: 14.4
VW 1997 Golf VR6 Turbo: 14.5
BMW 335i: 14.6
VW Golf VR6 Supercharged: 14.7 (VF Engineering kit)
Ford Ka Turbo: 14.8
New Ford Mustang GT: 14.9
Audi S3: 15.5 (previous version)
New Ford Mustang: 15.7
Chrysler Shadow Turbo: 15.8
Renault Clio Sport: 16.1 (this one clocked a 2.1 60 foot)
New Mitsubishi Eclipse: 16.3
My cousin's 1995 VW Golf VR6: 16.523, http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2224711
Chevy C2: 16.6 (A lightweight, modernized Chevette)
Honda Civic VTEC: 16.8
Toyota 4Runner V8: 16.9
Audi A3- 16.9 (previous version that did not come to the U.S.)
Chevrolet (Opel) Astra: 17.0 (previous version, not the one that Saturn has now)
Dodge Ram 2500 Hemi: 17.0
Stock VW Golf VR6: 17.2
Ford Ecosport: 17.6 (think of a Ford Escape, but this little SUV from Brazil weighs something like 2,700 pounds)
Jeep Liberty 4x2: 17.7
Ford Ka: 17.8
My Lexus RX300: 17.931
Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7L V8: 17.945 (previous model, not sure about exact year)
Ford Explorer V8: 18.2
Ford Escape: 18.2
Honda Pilot: 18.3
Acura MDX: 18.3
Porsche Cayenne V6: 18.3
Dodge Nitro 3.7 L: 19.0