LexFather

My young jedi knights. the point u miss it.
To say the RX is for moms and for grandmoms is ridiculous.
It is as ridiculous as me saying the X3 is for idiots.

I totally understand each car does have an "image" but let us not fall prey to it!

And yes I am mouthy...u should see me IN PERSON at meets!!

DASHOCKER

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So I must be classified as an idiot.. Wish I could get away with making outlandish statements I don't just rely on magazines and videos.. The smart money like myself, actually goes out to various dealerships &drive the vehicles to determine whats hot from whats not...First off, the 06 x3 has more features than the previous model. Hill Decent control, beefed up brakes with m3 like stopping, panoramic roof and other features that make it a far better vehicle than its predecessor.. As far as the ride is concerned, it is not stiff as some hail it to be. All this ying yang coming from people who never driven or owned a BMW. I drive this vehicle on many pot hole riddled streets in NYC. It actually soaks up the bumps real well with quiet aplomb. Not jarring at all as some critice deem it. Handeling is this vehicles forte. It carves the corners like no other vehicle.. On par with the M3 Comp package at .88g's and has no body roll. This vehicle also has a steptronic tranny with a sport mode.. Flog it in sport and the horsepower feels limitless. I wanted a sports activity vehicle that i can haul stuff in, and I have one. The Rx does not fit the bill for me. Too softly sprung, loose steering, spungy brakes, slow.. IN NYC, most of the folks I see driving Rx's are elderly.. I figure it is better suited for them. So my money went towards an x3 instead of a RX 7 i am more than pleased

marshmallo

LOL, a performance SUV. That's the funniest thing I've heard all
day.

If there is an RX-F before there is a GS-F that would be an outrage.

mavericck

I don't see what's so funny....

widlfiresd

Not sure what you mean?

A Lexus GS is a performance Toyota. Why can't a SUV apply?

PhilipMSPT

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SUVs, in general, aren't made for performance.

SUVs need lots of storage, and extra torque for towing. Also, they should have off-road capability.

Performance vehicles need to be light, low, and fast. An SUV is neither light (bigger vehicles mean more weight), nor low (their center of gravity is much higher than most regular sedans/coupes), and can be fast, but with the excess weight, doesn't reach top speeds as expected with same-hp sedans. Have you ever tried cornering an SUV at high speeds? You'll know it when you feel it...

I would like a more performance-oriented-SUV. However, there is no such thing as a performance-SUV.

DASHOCKER

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You need to take a trip to the BMW center for a test drive then. Your mind will change rather quickly.. Try corning with an X5,/X3 on your favorite back road. Seen that x5 commercial on the Nubergring? That is no animation buddy.

foofighter

i still would like to see toyota or lexus comeo out w/ some performance oriented SUV/SAV/Crossover whatever you want to call it. If anything to attract the men to the showroom to look at say an RX which i think more women own/drive right? Cant hurt, it wont be a volume seller but will up the image a little.

LexFather

You don't think watching a X5 commercial on the Nurbergring is ridiculous? Its like watching Sumo Wrestlers play basketball. Why on EARTH would anyone WANT to corner on a backroad in a SUV???????

I totally understand if the situation came UP, yes a X5 or Cayenne, etc is sportier/safer in those rare, 1% driving situations.

Otherwise, its all in your head and the marketing department should get a raise!!!
A Lexus GS is a Lexus GS. This analogy is way off

I can agree there are some sportier SUVs than others but that is missing the entire point of the genre.

Its like teaching an elephant that can "dance with the stars".

GFerg

Would be interesting for some. Me?? I see no need for it yet.

Lets worry about the IS-F first and LF-A (and making performance versions of Lexus vehicles that actually make more sense)before we start thinking about a RX-F.

LexFather

I agree. Clearly AGAIN, there is a market for sporty SUVs. There are now plenty of them.
Lexus might bring a JX i.e GS based crossover (rumors) or not. Clearly they are doing well with their 3 SUVs and missing the boat with sporty ones.

The funny thing is the current RX is sportier than the 1st gen!

Lexmex

Personally, I like the front of the current generation and the back of my 99. Those bug eyes on the current one and that back strike me as X5ish.

marshmallo

6000lbs + 800hp + 3mpg + jerky manual = 5 customers.

I'm eagerly awaiting the next F1 season when they bring out the SUV's.
LOL, this is too funny.

Och

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Can someone photoshop an SUV F1 car?

widlfiresd

It will look like an X5. only it will have a wood steering wheel and tranny issues.