BMW 3 owner's fooled by fake leather?
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I'm pretty sure I explained why you get leatherette quite clearly in the post right above yours. You can think whatever you like about egos, some people option to get leatherette because they, *gasp*, don't want leather.
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I think leatherette is OK for the 3 series, it's more of a sports sedan/coupe than a true luxury car anyway, much like the G35 coupe. So if some people prefer faux leather because it's durable & easier to maintain, it's a good match for the car.
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Amazing how this has turned out to be a semi-big deal.
I think we are missing the point!
You have to pay to get *real* leather. Its an *option* reguardless of its quality.
I think we are missing the point!
You have to pay to get *real* leather. Its an *option* reguardless of its quality.
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Dealers will not go out of their way to tell you if it is a vinyl interior. It says it on the window sticker.
It is not deception, just not obvious. Happens all the time. For example do you think lexus and Toyota are telling potential customers that the 06/7 V6 trannies are defective and there is no fix yet?
Or do you think they advertise the fact your nav is locked out while driving?
The truth be told vinyl seats will hold up better and longer than any leather or cloth. Mercedes used vinyl for years and look new all the time.
The advantage with vinyl becomes clear with kids. No leather treatment required. Child seats do not damage the vinyl. It will not discolor. etc.
Also, unless you get a BMW 5/6/7 series or a Lexus LS, you have a lot of vinyl matching panels in the lower end models.
Most cars have a mix of vinyl/leather.
It is not deception, just not obvious. Happens all the time. For example do you think lexus and Toyota are telling potential customers that the 06/7 V6 trannies are defective and there is no fix yet?
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The truth be told vinyl seats will hold up better and longer than any leather or cloth. Mercedes used vinyl for years and look new all the time.
The advantage with vinyl becomes clear with kids. No leather treatment required. Child seats do not damage the vinyl. It will not discolor. etc.
Also, unless you get a BMW 5/6/7 series or a Lexus LS, you have a lot of vinyl matching panels in the lower end models.
Most cars have a mix of vinyl/leather.
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I don't mind paying extra for "optional" vinyl/leatherette. If I can pay the money for something I want, and eliminate some hassles in the future (maintenance on the leather surface, cracked leather, etc), that's REAL luxury.
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Thanks.
I'm ghost. People paying extra for plastic and defending it. God forbid Lexus had a leatherette IS.....
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They are not paying extra for vinyl. They pay extra if they want leather.
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Some folks have allergies, etc. and they cannot have leather. Also, here in the U.S. we have an abundance of cows and no where to dump the leather hides.
I would not be surprised if leather is actually cheaper than good fabric.
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If you look at the Lexus web site, the IS, ES, and the RX all come with cloth standard. The U.S. marketeers add leather (force you to buy), unless you custom order.
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I dont really care if I'm sitting on seats made out of X material. At the end of the day, the purpose it serves is far more important to me than bragging rights. I'm not too happy to tell people I have real leather seat when they look into my car and see all the creases and stretches. It's nice that my car comes with real leather, but if it had leatherette as a factory option, I would have opt for that instead. I just like the new look and the way it feels. I dont care too much about what it's made out of, just as long as it works.
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Dealers will not go out of their way to tell you if it is a vinyl interior. It says it on the window sticker.
It is not deception, just not obvious. Happens all the time. For example do you think lexus and Toyota are telling potential customers that the 06/7 V6 trannies are defective and there is no fix yet?
Or do you think they advertise the fact your nav is locked out while driving?
The truth be told vinyl seats will hold up better and longer than any leather or cloth. Mercedes used vinyl for years and look new all the time.
The advantage with vinyl becomes clear with kids. No leather treatment required. Child seats do not damage the vinyl. It will not discolor. etc.
Also, unless you get a BMW 5/6/7 series or a Lexus LS, you have a lot of vinyl matching panels in the lower end models.
Most cars have a mix of vinyl/leather.
It is not deception, just not obvious. Happens all the time. For example do you think lexus and Toyota are telling potential customers that the 06/7 V6 trannies are defective and there is no fix yet?
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
The truth be told vinyl seats will hold up better and longer than any leather or cloth. Mercedes used vinyl for years and look new all the time.
The advantage with vinyl becomes clear with kids. No leather treatment required. Child seats do not damage the vinyl. It will not discolor. etc.
Also, unless you get a BMW 5/6/7 series or a Lexus LS, you have a lot of vinyl matching panels in the lower end models.
Most cars have a mix of vinyl/leather.
OMG are you saying my IS has Vinyl in it?!!! NOOOO!!
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