Consumer Reports Jan 07. Rav4 beats X3/RDX/FX35....
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How do say the RDX has above average reliability when it has an all new turbocharged 6? Just because its a honda? Every other car brand seems to get no reliability rating when its a new platform because basically they dont really know.
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love the V6 in the Rav4, but the rest is .. blah.. Except for the CX7, I would pick the rest over the Rav4 any day. Seriously, I don't give a rat a$$ about CR ranking but some people do really read and follow it like a bible.
I can't believe the FJ is not recommended.. CR usually weight more on functionalilty and practicallity than anything so maybe the big blind spot and the 2 door really killed it for CR.. Oh well
I can't believe the FJ is not recommended.. CR usually weight more on functionalilty and practicallity than anything so maybe the big blind spot and the 2 door really killed it for CR.. Oh well
It matters in your favorite brand, but it doesnt matter in Rav4 :-).
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Besides reliability, which CR values above all other, what other things did they value? And conversely, despite getting a higher score than the rest (except Rav4), how can the X3 be not recommended? Just because of the half a black mark? Which goes back again to them valuing reliability above all else.
CR, most of their readers and surveys, are about being 'sensible', not having fun. If you want to be mainstream and sensible, buy what CR says. Excuse me if I don't wanna party with you though, I've got some cracks to spackle over instead, lol
CR, most of their readers and surveys, are about being 'sensible', not having fun. If you want to be mainstream and sensible, buy what CR says. Excuse me if I don't wanna party with you though, I've got some cracks to spackle over instead, lol
Besides, not even the germans like the X3. It just lost to Rav4 in last month's Autobild.
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The category is 'sporty SUVs'. Why would they not be stiffly sprung!?
Of course to CR anything that doesn't ride like a Camry is stiff.![Egads!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/pat.gif)
Comparing vehicles like the X3 with facelifted interior and the FX35 and the RDX to the SPARTAN cheap Rav4 makes no sense. I guess without reading the article and how they scored them, I can't figure it out. ![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
OK, I'm talking about DRIVING fun, not playing with the stereo.
This category is SPORTY SUVs after all.
Of course to CR anything that doesn't ride like a Camry is stiff.
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The X3 without I-drive had the best controls to them and the upgraded interior was better.
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My dad recalls back when he was much younger - I wanna say 30-35 years ago, consumer reports was absolutely IN LOVE with the VW Rabbit. I mean no matter what came out the Rabbit was the absolute best car in its class, and reliable beyond question.
I think we can all look back and kinda laugh at that assessment. CR isn't infallible - they have their biases just like everyone else, and so do their readers, whom they commonly limit their polling to.
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I wouldn't say that until I'd tried stuffing one. I had a 2-door 1996 RAV4, and it was truly amazing how much stuff I could put in it with the back seats down.
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The X3's cargo area is by no means small. It is quite deep without the seats being folded down. More than enough cargo room for the Home Depot type like me
The BMW X3 is the only vehice in the bunch that corners better than the competion and many cars including every Lexus ever made. When cornering in an suv, your natural instinct is to put your foot over the brake to go slowly around a corner/curve. In the BMW x3, it begs to be driven hard in the corners/curves.. No body roll at all, compliant suspension, and you can drive with confidence. The X-drive system is amazing.. It makes this vehicle stick like glue to the road. It feels/drives no different than a 3 series sedan/coupe, but does cost more than the 335.. I test drove the other vehicles except the Mazda C7, and none of them drove like the X3. The controls in the X3 are simple to use. Here is a pic of the controls in mine.
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