2007 Tundra Falls Short in NHTSA Frontal Crash Test Rating
03-18-07, 10:24 PM
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This result does concern me quite a bit but we just bought a New Tundra 5.7L today 
. We traded the 06 Dodge ram 1 ton pick up for this baby. Let me tell you .... This truck can fly lol. I guess time will tell......
JPI
. We traded the 06 Dodge ram 1 ton pick up for this baby. Let me tell you .... This truck can fly lol. I guess time will tell...... JPI
03-19-07, 08:20 AM
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The problem it seems is that the new Tundra is TOO STIFF up front and the occupants are experiencing too much g-force during acceleration as the trucks crumple zones are not giving in enough.
But, could that be good if say a new Tundra ran into a vehicle which will give?
We are still considering a Tundra and after test driving the competition yesterday, no doubt it is the superior truck in a great many aspects out there. I just feel for any Silverado, F150, or RAM owner that goes head to head with the new Tundra as their truck will ,”give more” in the collision.
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03-19-07, 08:43 AM
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Congrats, we test drove another today and decided that this test mean little at this time until the IIHS comes out. I saw the video and the cabin stayed intact. In fact the frame did better vs the new 07 Silverado did.
The problem it seems is that the new Tundra is TOO STIFF up front and the occupants are experiencing too much g-force during acceleration as the trucks crumple zones are not giving in enough.
But, could that be good if say a new Tundra ran into a vehicle which will give?
We are still considering a Tundra and after test driving the competition yesterday, no doubt it is the superior truck in a great many aspects out there. I just feel for any Silverado, F150, or RAM owner that goes head to head with the new Tundra as their truck will ,”give more” in the collision.
The problem it seems is that the new Tundra is TOO STIFF up front and the occupants are experiencing too much g-force during acceleration as the trucks crumple zones are not giving in enough.
But, could that be good if say a new Tundra ran into a vehicle which will give?
We are still considering a Tundra and after test driving the competition yesterday, no doubt it is the superior truck in a great many aspects out there. I just feel for any Silverado, F150, or RAM owner that goes head to head with the new Tundra as their truck will ,”give more” in the collision.
JPI
03-19-07, 08:54 AM
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Hah! It seems that Toyota made the truck too stiff, and this is what is affecting the safety rating. Indeed the high g-forces indicate that the crumple zones aren't absorbing enough energy and the body is not giving. I find it pretty ironic that being too stiff is bad in a crash test, yet manufacturers tout their chassis' stiffness.
However, if a 5-star tested sedan collided with the new Tundra, there's no question in which vehicle I'd rather be.
However, if a 5-star tested sedan collided with the new Tundra, there's no question in which vehicle I'd rather be.
03-19-07, 09:19 AM
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Hah! It seems that Toyota made the truck too stiff, and this is what is affecting the safety rating. Indeed the high g-forces indicate that the crumple zones aren't absorbing enough energy and the body is not giving. I find it pretty ironic that being too stiff is bad in a crash test, yet manufacturers tout their chassis' stiffness.
However, if a 5-star tested sedan collided with the new Tundra, there's no question in which vehicle I'd rather be.
However, if a 5-star tested sedan collided with the new Tundra, there's no question in which vehicle I'd rather be.
03-19-07, 01:38 PM
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Hah! It seems that Toyota made the truck too stiff, and this is what is affecting the safety rating. Indeed the high g-forces indicate that the crumple zones aren't absorbing enough energy and the body is not giving. I find it pretty ironic that being too stiff is bad in a crash test, yet manufacturers tout their chassis' stiffness.
However, if a 5-star tested sedan collided with the new Tundra, there's no question in which vehicle I'd rather be.
However, if a 5-star tested sedan collided with the new Tundra, there's no question in which vehicle I'd rather be.
Take a golf ball and a marble. Roll them at each other and look at how the marble bounces off the golf ball. Cannot ignore physics.
Take a 5200lb Tundra and bounce it off an LS460 or A8. Which would someone really want to be in? I hope a Tundra never goes head to head with me in my SC or Fusion.
That said, we test drove a GX again along with 2 more Tundras today and just for S^&ts and Giggles drove another Silverado. The Silverado just was not a competitor in our opinion but we (she) decided for the GX as it serves our purpose more and dropping a 45k check for a pickup just did not seem wise as it is still a truck afterall-even if it is very nice.
03-20-07, 07:36 PM
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Take a 5200lb Tundra and bounce it off an LS460 or A8. Which would someone really want to be in? I hope a Tundra never goes head to head with me in my SC or Fusion.
In an accident I want to be in the vehicle that compresses everything between me and the other car THE MOST, to absorb the damaging forces from affecting organs, limbs, nervous systems.
That said, we test drove a GX again along with 2 more Tundras today and just for S^&ts and Giggles drove another Silverado. The Silverado just was not a competitor in our opinion but we (she) decided for the GX as it serves our purpose more and dropping a 45k check for a pickup just did not seem wise as it is still a truck afterall-even if it is very nice.
03-20-07, 07:40 PM
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I for one would have no issues from a safety standpoint in buying a Tundra.
Just a few years ago we were psyched by having ONE air bag in a car. Now if it doesn't have half a dozen it's considered bad.
03-20-07, 08:05 PM
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Yes, but that's not how crash protection works. Yes the light vehicle in an accident may get 'shunted' further, but if its body compresses as it should, the OCCUPANTS (all that really matters) can feel less of the impact than those in a heavy solid box that doesn't compress much.
In an accident I want to be in the vehicle that compresses everything between me and the other car THE MOST, to absorb the damaging forces from affecting organs, limbs, nervous systems.
In an accident I want to be in the vehicle that compresses everything between me and the other car THE MOST, to absorb the damaging forces from affecting organs, limbs, nervous systems.
Conservation of Energy needs to be on our side, not against us! I rather have all the energy transfer to the chassis rather than towards me (and other occupants). Crumple zone is a good thing
I wouldn't want to be in a vehicle with too much stiffness in the chassis/body. I would be throw towards the front of the car as if I'm being sucked in by the black hole.
I agree that I would rather be in a Toyota Tundra rather than a Toyota Echo, since the Echo would be crushed. However, the Toyota Tundra isn't the biggest toy on the road. An 18-wheeler will probably make the Tundra the world's biggest metal sandwich.
03-21-07, 08:11 PM
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That said, we test drove a GX again along with 2 more Tundras today and just for S^&ts and Giggles drove another Silverado. The Silverado just was not a competitor in our opinion but we (she) decided for the GX as it serves our purpose more and dropping a 45k check for a pickup just did not seem wise as it is still a truck afterall-even if it is very nice.
03-21-07, 10:21 PM
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Toyota is a little confused as to how its new full-size Tundra pickup only achieved a score of four stars in the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's test for frontal crash performance. Mike Levine at Pickuptruck.com, who is fast becoming Autoblog's unofficial expert on all things with a bed, spoke with Bill Kwong, a representative from Toyota, this morning. Kwong revealed that Toyota performed its own internal crash testing of the Tundra according to the NHTSA's criteria and the truck repeatedly scored five stars. This no doubt gave Toyota the confidence to predict that the Tundra would receive five stars across the board from the NHTSA, a move that definitely has the Japanese juggernaut wiping a little egg off its face now. Kwong said it will take a few weeks to sort out what contributed to the truck's four-star score, but that they'll determine what it is and fix it as soon as possible.
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