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Is this really a upcoming reality or do think it won't happen? I would really like a nice powerfull sports coupe, manual, etc...and I only can see this car delivering that.
Anyone got the latest news on the possibility of an MKV??
Anyone got the latest news on the possibility of an MKV??
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My local Toyota dealer has reprints of a recent (December?) article from C&D, I think, discussing the return of the Supra in 2009. From reading the article, it sounds like it'll be in the same vein as the 350Z. The mag claims it'll be in the 30s, but the salesman I talked to expects it to be closer to 50.
I could see a twin-turbo JZ being around 50k, but an uptuned 2GR-FSE at around 300hp seems more likely to me, which would put the base at (my guess) $35k.
I could see a twin-turbo JZ being around 50k, but an uptuned 2GR-FSE at around 300hp seems more likely to me, which would put the base at (my guess) $35k.
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My local Toyota dealer has reprints of a recent (December?) article from C&D, I think, discussing the return of the Supra in 2009. From reading the article, it sounds like it'll be in the same vein as the 350Z. The mag claims it'll be in the 30s, but the salesman I talked to expects it to be closer to 50.
I could see a twin-turbo JZ being around 50k, but an uptuned 2GR-FSE at around 300hp seems more likely to me, which would put the base at (my guess) $35k.
I could see a twin-turbo JZ being around 50k, but an uptuned 2GR-FSE at around 300hp seems more likely to me, which would put the base at (my guess) $35k.
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I think it would be very unlikely that Toyota would use the 2jz anymore... that's a motor that is now getting close to being 14 years old. I know that we in the tuner world love it because you could throw a grenade at the block and nothing would happen, but I'm sure Toyota would use something like the V6 in the 350 models.
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I am pretty sure we will not see anything from Toyota like the last Supra. The last Supra was engineered and built to go up against expensive high performance cars like the Porsche 911, Corvette, 300ZX tt, Skyline GTR, Ferrari 355, Mitsu 3000GT, RX-7, Acura NSX. It pretty much outperformed most of those cars in most categories but that came at a drawback which was a pretty high price especially for a Toyota. Without people knowing the strength and potential of the engine and car most enthusiasts just thought it was too expensive for a Toyota and bought cars that had more history and prestige. Toyota knows a 40+K sports car is not going to sell that well and are not interested in just satisfying some hardcore Supra enthusiasts that may not even be able to buy one brand new and would rather focus on cheaper bland/boring cars that they know will sell much better like more pickups,SUVs, crossovers, cute little cars, hybrids, etc. In order for a new Supra to be a worthy successor to the last one and compete on the same plain it would need a v-8 and be making at least 385hp and more likely over 400hp, having a v-8 and producing that kind of power means Toyota is going to charge a very high price for it and it will not sell well so they are not that interested.
Toyota has showed a Hybrid concept as a possible new sports car but that would be a horrible power plant for a high performance sports car like a Supra because of weight, batteries running out during track/high speed runs etc. They may go with a sports car with a version of the IS350 v-6 engine in it to reduce costs but it is not going to be the high potential powerhouse like the last Supra was and will not be seriously competitive to Corvettes, 911's, Skylines, Ferraris, etc. Toyota may end up doing a affordable rwd v-6 sports car but I doubt it will be called the Supra or be a legitimate replacement for the last Supra.
We are not going to get another indestructable highly tunable cast iron twin turbo inline six powered Supra that can outperform Corvettes, Porsches, Skylines, Ferraris, etc because it will be too expensive and that engine is not being made any more. The only hope is that if Toyota partners with Subaru the flat six in Subaru lineup could be turbocharged and made into a very good powerplant for a new Supra replacement. If you want a real high performance sports car from Toyota in the future then I think the Lexus LFA is your only real option but it is going to be out of reach for most enthusiasts. If Toyota was serious about a new Supra they would have built one by now.
Toyota has showed a Hybrid concept as a possible new sports car but that would be a horrible power plant for a high performance sports car like a Supra because of weight, batteries running out during track/high speed runs etc. They may go with a sports car with a version of the IS350 v-6 engine in it to reduce costs but it is not going to be the high potential powerhouse like the last Supra was and will not be seriously competitive to Corvettes, 911's, Skylines, Ferraris, etc. Toyota may end up doing a affordable rwd v-6 sports car but I doubt it will be called the Supra or be a legitimate replacement for the last Supra.
We are not going to get another indestructable highly tunable cast iron twin turbo inline six powered Supra that can outperform Corvettes, Porsches, Skylines, Ferraris, etc because it will be too expensive and that engine is not being made any more. The only hope is that if Toyota partners with Subaru the flat six in Subaru lineup could be turbocharged and made into a very good powerplant for a new Supra replacement. If you want a real high performance sports car from Toyota in the future then I think the Lexus LFA is your only real option but it is going to be out of reach for most enthusiasts. If Toyota was serious about a new Supra they would have built one by now.
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