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Old 04-04-07, 10:40 AM
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Posted Apr 3rd 2007 12:35PM by Frank Filipponio

The car won't go on sale until the middle of next year in the States, but we have a seemingly insatiable appetite for any information about BMW's 4th generation M3. Spy photos, technical tidbits, rumors, and whatnot have all been featured on this site, but now we have the real deal. Finally. The folks at AutoWeek just broke their article on this newest M3 and the overall opinion seems to match our expectations and alleviate our concerns at the same time. And the car is coming none too soon. With the new Mercedes-Benz CLK63 Black Series and the Audi RS5 set to debut in the near future as well, BMW needs its best and brightest on the front line.

As tends to be true of virtually every model on the market, the new M3 has grown up a bit in the evolution from E46 to E92. More GT than boy racer, it should still provide plenty of thrills for drivers. In place of the smooth-revving 3.2-liter straight-six goes a 30-pound-lighter, 4.0-liter V8 that is essentially a sawed-off M5 V10. It features an aluminum block, magnesium cam covers and aluminum-silicon alloy in the crankcase and produces 420 hp at 8300 rpm, and 295 lb-ft at 3900 rpm. Redline is at 8400, and AW promises a sound that is at least as sweet as the outgoing six, but with an added heft at the low end thanks to the extra two cylinders. All of that power is routed through a proper 6-speed stick too. Are those angels we hear singing?

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That's an interesting air entry they have with the adapter on their airbox.
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Nice!! but 420Hp and only 290 Torque?? Well, the max HP doesn't come in till 8000 RPM......
I was hoping there should be more torque from the V8.
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Sorry but that's pretty ugly, I prefer the look of 335i coupe with sport package a lot more.


RS4 looks much better than M3 or IS-F.
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2 more doors, please.
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Apparently those are not actual production pics. Maybe pics of the car running the ring. I really doubt that even with some of the M3's love it or hate it styling cues, that they would shoot such horrible photography to introduce the car.

All automakers make it a habit to shadow out the driver. These pictures don't show that.
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Nice!! but 420Hp and only 290 Torque?? Well, the max HP doesn't come in till 8000 RPM......
I was hoping there should be more torque from the V8.
420hp @ 8300 RPM not 8000

290 lbs/ft tq from a 4.0L N/A engine sounds about right. Tq measured @ the crank is not everything, it's the gearing that delivered the tq to the wheels that matters.
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Nice!! but 420Hp and only 290 Torque?? Well, the max HP doesn't come in till 8000 RPM......
I was hoping there should be more torque from the V8.
Yea me too but something tells me bmw underated the car. I'm sure intake, headers, exhaust, cams and a chip will do wonders for this motor.
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Torque is important, but if 290lbs of Torque gets the M3 moving enough (it is going to be lighter) and 400Hp keeps it there launching, then it is not a problem.

Don't be soo critical... This car will do a few things right...
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Originally Posted by joyriide
Torque is important, but if 290lbs of Torque gets the M3 moving enough (it is going to be lighter) and 400Hp keeps it there launching, then it is not a problem.

Don't be soo critical... This car will do a few things right...
Yes, it will definitely do a few things right, but the M3 is no longer the "godly" car that many believe it is.
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Originally Posted by cherplex
Yea me too but something tells me bmw underated the car. I'm sure intake, headers, exhaust, cams and a chip will do wonders for this motor.
IMHO, I don't think this engine has much room to grow unless FI. Just like the high rev ITR & S2K engines, I am suspecting there is very little gain from adding intake, headers & exhaust.
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Good to see it in production. The bimmer forum guys are crying about E46 M3 prices falling, now they should fall even more, and I can scoop one up for 30k, the old E46 looks way better too.
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Originally Posted by newr
IMHO, I don't think this engine has much room to grow unless FI. Just like the high rev ITR & S2K engines, I am suspecting there is very little gain from adding intake, headers & exhaust.
I agree. This engine has many race technologies employed in it. Not much else you can do, except increase displacement.
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Originally Posted by STIG
Sorry but that's pretty ugly, I prefer the look of 335i coupe with sport package a lot more.


RS4 looks much better than M3 or IS-F.
Yeah, I'll take an IS-F over this in a second.

Plus, where's the wide body stance that the 3rd gen M3 has. That's one of the things that made the last M3 so great.

Oh well, I'm used to seeing Bimmers go down the tubes.
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Yes, it will definitely do a few things right, but the M3 is no longer the "godly" car that many believe it is.
It's still the benchmark for moderately priced GT cars, no?
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