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1. 07 TL-S vs. #2. 07 IS350 vs #3. G35 at Willow Springs Racetrack.

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Old 04-12-07, 08:07 PM
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[QUOTE=Lubs;2548440]The video posted sees the TL-S lap in 1:32.88. The car is a stick and he drives with the VSA off.

That's quite a difference from the times posted in the article above. Different conditions can be assumed, but I'm tempted to think this comparo was with automatics based on the almost 4 second difference.

I'm impressed with the TL-S, but this is a different beast than the normal TL. The engine is a detuned RL 3.5 L, and not the 3.2 L that 98% of TL owners have. I don't have a problem with that at all, but it's worth pointing out. Much like the difference between Integra Type-R and GSRs is.[/QUOTE]

My point. The TL and TL-S are fantastic and I'm not even debating it being first. What I am saying is, the TL-S is the "hotrod" TL vs standard IS and G35 models. That was all.
 
Old 04-12-07, 08:10 PM
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TL-S won because of manual transmission vs. lousy gear control on the IS350 sportshift, you cant always be in the gear you would like on the IS
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Looks like the TL did exceptionally well considering that the Horsepower difference between the the TL-S is significatly lower than the IS 350... For the $$$ the TL-S package would probably win over my decision in picking a vehicle.. But i haven't driven any of those cars so i can't really determine what would be better.
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Old 04-12-07, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
TL-S won because of manual transmission vs. lousy gear control on the IS350 sportshift, you cant always be in the gear you would like on the IS
Well then KUDOS to Acura for offering a stick with the TL-S and SHAME on Lexus for only offering an auto with the IS 350. Its a contest and I'm not going to tell Kobe Bryant to wear Via Spiga shoes on the basketball court to make things "fair" for the Atlanta Hawks.
 
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
My point. The TL and TL-S are fantastic and I'm not even debating it being first. What I am saying is, the TL-S is the "hotrod" TL vs standard IS and G35 models. That was all.
What a surprise (results). Weird, but still a surprise.

With all do respect, I am confident a standard TL would smoke a standard IS. If all cars were standard, the results would probably be more like G>TL>IS.
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Old 04-12-07, 08:35 PM
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What a surprise (results). Weird, but still a surprise.

With all do respect, I am confident a standard TL would smoke a standard IS. If all cars were standard, the results would probably be more like G>TL>IS.
A standard TL vs a standard IS 350? I have to disagree . TL would smoke a IS 250 though, stick or auto.
 
Old 04-12-07, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
I just noticed that they threw in the Acura RDX
LOL I was just gonna say that. So random...
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Old 04-12-07, 08:47 PM
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The outcome certainly shocked me.

I would have expected the:

G35 Sport to be 1st because of its well balanced performance and IS350 to be second because of its quick acceleration.

To be quiet honest, I never really paid attention to the TL-S, so I really won't judge it as of now.

Interesting results. I expected a good battle between the IS and G, but not from the TL


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Old 04-12-07, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
A standard TL vs a standard IS 350? I have to disagree . TL would smoke a IS 250 though, stick or auto.
I would disagree with that also. But no, when I say standard, I mean the IS250, as it is the standard IS model.

The IS350 would currently be considered the 'hot-rod' model in my opinion. It has over 100hp more than the standard IS, over 90lb/ft of more torque, a better final-drive ratio and a much better breaking system. The difference in power between the standard TL and TL-S is less than 30hp and 25lb/ft of torque. Though I see what you are trying to say by 'standard' IS350, the 350 is by no means standard in anyway.
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Old 04-12-07, 09:20 PM
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The IS350 may be the quickest of the bunch on the quarter mile, but it edges out the G35 and TL-S by just a few car lengths. Since the cars were thrown on a track, all that magazine stuff goes out the window. Where the IS350 is quicker on the straight, the TL makes up for it on the turns. It just happens that the track had more turns than straight-aways

I am definitely shocked at the result. I think the majority of us would expect the G35 to be in first, then the IS350, and finally the TL-S. Goes to show that FWD isn't always inferior to RWD. Same track, same driver, same day, around the same time...seems like the best way to test cars without inducing too many variables.
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Old 04-12-07, 09:26 PM
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i just watched the video. the TL-S actually turns!
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The rear end kind of slide around though
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Old 04-12-07, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by genearch
Shouldn't you say that the TL/TL-S is analogous to the IS250/IS350? Acura has no horse in the IS-F race...
Well Acura and Infiniti have a limited lineup. Lexus did follow the 3 by offering 2 models, the IS 250 and 350. The 350 can be had just like a 250 but with the better engine.

To me, it would be TL-S vs the last gen L-tuned IS 300. Both cars only offer one engine and the S and Tuned are the "sport" models of each version.

Either way, not really making excuses at all, the TL-S won fair.
 
Old 04-12-07, 10:38 PM
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The funny thing is that a 17 year old NSX will probably wipe the floor with the upcoming IS-F around the track
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
To me, it would be TL-S vs the last gen L-tuned IS 300. Both cars only offer one engine and the S and Tuned are the "sport" models of each version.
I'm not breaking *****... but as I mentioned earlier, the TL-S is a different engine. J32A3 vs J35A3.
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