freddymoo

why do J cars always lack behind in the torque dept? from their v4 to v6 and now upcoming v8 models?

they can increase their hps to match their american/euro rivals, however they always seem to be behind in the Torque?

is it their engineering/design?

IS_Mine

If you were looking for a Jap car NA that was a torque monster I think you were in the wrong market to begin with. :P

Besides this will just raise the argument between torque amount vs horse power.

Is your car made for crusing or are you going to the track? Because really, you only need massive amounts of torque if you're going from a dig. It helps you get off the line! Maybe you like torque because you like to be thrown back in your chair.. but for whatever reason! If you are buying a car for torque this is the wrong market for you! Unless you turbo charge an I6 :P

IS350jet

Can you post some specific examples? What cars, or better yet, what engines are you comparing? I think you'll find that if you compare C.I. to C.I. the Japanese engines come out ahead in HP AND torque.

GNN60GT500

I smell a troll-

I dont know why- why is the Earth round?

Why do I perfer skinny girls to fat ones?

Why do BMWs have to break down so much?

If you want torque, the only real place to get it is via a Muscle Car or REAL Sports car- (Lambo, Ferrari exc exc)

All sports/luxury/ blah blah blah - basically

the only car in this segment with real torque is the CTS-V

335, IS350, G35, A4 they all pretty much suck if you are just looking for the car with the most torque

Maybe the Japanese are looking at one side, the sales side of a famous quote-

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races

- Carroll Shelby

Reyngel

Three things:

1. Nice try, troll.

2. To humor you with a response, Japanese cars don't have low torque. They just typically have it higher in the rev range as opposed the typical low-end torque of American cars.

3. The term "Jap" isn't very appropriate. It's actually pretty offensive.

insider

Perhaps he's refering to the BMW 335i with its 300 ft.lbs of torque at only 1,400 rpm?

ElitistK

iTrader: (4)

torque = displacement. most japanese cars have smaller displacements compared to euro and domestic engines. But then again, domestic engines are OHV, which allows them to have big displacement within a rather small physical engine space. But either way, i smell a troll.

torque alone isn't a winning factor. you have to account for aerodynamics, gearing, hp, weight, suspension setup, and most important of all, tires.

Gtidan

Car & Driver......
3-SERIES COUPE
Vehicle type: front-engine, rear- or 4-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe
Base price: $35,995-$41,295
Engines: DOHC 24-valve 3.0-liter inline-6, 230 hp, 200 lb-ft; twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve 3.0-liter inline-6, 300 hp, 300 lb-ft

So lets see here. BMWs 3.0 liter kicks out 230 and 200 lb-ft.

My IS250 2.5 liter (not 3.0 liter) or 31 cubic inches LESS than the BMW puts out 204 hp and 185 lb-ft. Sounds to me like Lexus knows what their doing here.

Is it fair to compare a TWIN TURBO's torque with a normally aspirated engine? Maybe to the Motor Trend comic book group....I don't know

IS2Fizzle

iTrader: (2)

you gotta come up with a better one than that because the 335i puts down the power at 1400 rpm with boost. I believe the guys talking about all motor.

STIG

And when did Japaneses start making V4 motors?

socalJD

You'd have to look b/w your legs when straddling the appropriate Honda, Kawasaki or Suzuki . . .

STIG

you are right. How could I forgot about it?

The OP is right, those V4s are really weak in tq department.

newr

07 tundra V8 makes 'enough' hp & tq.

GRAND_LS 4

iTrader: (2)

Lets keep the discussion civil please.

mmarshall

Drive a Mitsubishi Evo if you want a Japanese-designed machine with torque.
I promise you...even with AWD, that little 4-cylinder turbo will get out of its own way, especialy as RPM's build.

Other Japanese-designed vehicles with good torque and acceleration are the Nissan 350Z and Subaru STi.

If you are looking for low-end torque, I would suggest avoiding Honda and Toyota-designed designed VTEC fours. They are generally the opposite...little torque throughout the RPM range and mostly high-end HP.

If you are looking for Japanese truck-type torque for hauling and carying heavy loads, the Tundra's new 5.7 L I-Force V8, with 401 ft.-lbs. of torque at fairly low RPM should fit the bill nicely.