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Old 04-28-07, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
Yes... it will probably be priced around 98k for LS460L AWD :-).
Thanks. That is for the 460L, correct...not for the regular-wheelbase 460?
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Thanks. That is for the 460L, correct...not for the regular-wheelbase 460?
For that price, it can't be for the SWB . . .
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Originally Posted by Robarapta
For that price, it can't be for the SWB . . .
I was hoping for an AWD short-wheelbase 460: ....but I think you and spwolf answered the question.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I was hoping for an AWD short-wheelbase 460: ....but I think you and spwolf answered the question.
Why are you hoping ? You mean you'll considering buying one if it's available in SWB ? AWD just adds about a couple grand to the price so the difference is not significant . . .
Actually in Japan & some European/Asian countries, the LS460 only comes in SWB, only the 600hL comes in LWB for them, so if AWD will indeed be coming for the LS460, I think it will be available somewhere in the world, just not N.America.
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Originally Posted by OC 335i

Doesn't look any diff. than the LS460 to me? I'm starting to see very many LS460s around.
Even the LS460 by itself looks pretty nice, as I've seen a bunch on the road. But the 60h has bigger rims, and the LED headlights make it look lower and sleeker.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Thanks. That is for the 460L, correct...not for the regular-wheelbase 460?
we dont know anything about that, yet... so we will see, it might be avail. for all models.
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Originally Posted by Robarapta
Why are you hoping ? You mean you'll considering buying one if it's available in SWB
If I ever decide to really spurge on an expensive car, an AWD 460 would be very high on my list. Right now, however, most of my spare cash is going into my retirement.

Yes, that's a LOT of money to put into a car, but drive a new 460 and see for yourself (if you have not done so). Like the Acura RL, the 460 is almost intoxicating to drive....and it beats the RL in some areas outside of traction and hardware quality. An AWD 460, of course, would remove the RL's traction advantage.
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Old 04-28-07, 12:44 PM
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I drove a LS460h at the Taste of Lexus. Very nice ride, nice car. A boat, but I expected it to be. I preferred how the 7 series handled but I think if I were to choose a car that size, handling would be further down my list of priorities than normal.

LS, 7 series, A8, etc. I wish I could be put in that situation.
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Interesting how Car&Driver is well-liked after a favorable review of a Lexus...but this is just the First Drive, wait for that comparison test with the A8 and big V12 Merc. Once Lexus brings up the rear in that test, then the Car&Driver haters can go back to showing their disdain for the magazine.

Thank goodness you guys aren't testing cars...just imagine how prejudiced those reviews would be. Toyota would win damn near every comparison test...why? because they last the longest. LOL

I still would prefer a 600hl without AWD and ****. That would be nice. Saving weight and also being able to lower that baby without interfering with the electronics.

But I love where Lexus is taking us with all this hybrid and suspension technology, because it's going to make for some very interesting high-performance cars in the next 5 years. Go LEXUS!

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Originally Posted by KevinGS
Thank goodness you guys aren't testing cars...just imagine how prejudiced those reviews would be.
I beg your pardon, sir. Try reading some of my reviews....right here on CAR CHAT. I don't think you will fine them prejudiced at all.
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Originally Posted by KevinGS
Thank goodness you guys aren't testing cars...just imagine how prejudiced those reviews would be.
I beg your pardon, sir. Try reading some of my reviews....right here on CAR CHAT. I don't think you will find them prejudiced at all. I write a list of " PLUSSES:" and "MINUSES:" for each vehicle.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I beg your pardon, sir. Try reading some of my reviews....right here on CAR CHAT. I don't think you will fine them prejudiced at all.
OK, OK...thank goodness "many" of you aren't testing cars, because...
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Originally Posted by OC 335i
I drove a LS460h at the Taste of Lexus. Very nice ride, nice car. A boat, but I expected it to be. I preferred how the 7 series handled but I think if I were to choose a car that size, handling would be further down my list of priorities than normal.

LS, 7 series, A8, etc. I wish I could be put in that situation.
You drove an LS460 or an LS600hL?
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
You drove an LS460 or an LS600hL?
Ooops, I drove one of there few LS hybrids.

Similar to the event here:
http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/?p=773
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Originally Posted by OC 335i
Ooops, I drove one of there few LS hybrids.

Similar to the event here:
http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/?p=773
Wow...you're serious? Didn't know that the ToL last year had LS600hL's for test drive. Lucky you.
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