2009 Cadillac CTS-V will/not have 600HP Blue Devil engine (Update: 505HP Z06 engine)
06-04-07, 08:42 PM
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GM needs to figure out how to make the rearend hold up, they had trouble with CTS Vs' with the LS2 and they actually had some trouble with the LS1. Pinion bearings' and shims getting wear by 15000 miles, add another 200hp and you've got real trouble! But it's still gonna be a cool ****!!! As far as hp goes there's an old adage for some people,some is good, more is better, and too much is just enough
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06-04-07, 09:36 PM
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I am with you. When your company are healthy like Toyota then you can play around with these low sale volume model. Watch Toyota and learn.......make money first then play. Too much egos in Detroit. I don't like any of Toyota cars/trucks line-up for the last 10 yrs, but i do have to respect their business decision on making boring/bland cars/trucks to get where they are today.
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06-04-07, 11:09 PM
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Highly doubt it will have 600hp. If thats the case, this will be one expensive car (definitely over 80K). It could price itself right out of the market.
But then again, GM does want the CTS to move up to the 5/E/GS class.
But then again, GM does want the CTS to move up to the 5/E/GS class.
06-05-07, 07:05 AM
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GM never can grasp market trends, and there is little market for a rwd vehicle w/the levels of torque that the CTS-V will offer. It will end up doing little more than spinning it's tires all day.
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06-05-07, 07:53 AM
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The CTS-V won't top out, fully-loaded, at more than $65k. It'll be in the $60-$65k range.
06-05-07, 07:55 AM
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you're not getting that all that engine hardware for under $80k, the supercharged STS-V already starts at $80k
06-05-07, 07:56 AM
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They could price it competitively if they WANT to, and I think they WANT to make this kind of impact. I say if they can keep it to 60k nicely equipped, they'd have a real hit on their hands.
Good old pushrod motors - much more fuel efficient, reliable, and power-capable than people ever imagined they could ever be 20 years ago when OHC was 'the future'.
06-05-07, 07:56 AM
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The fact is - people in America would LOVE to buy an American car with the capabilities - or more so - than cars made in Germany. Before the Cadillac V-Series - there was little choice. You bought German - or you bought nothing. Now, there's a choice. And with this new 600hp (easily upgradable to 700hp as it IS a downgraded engine) - the Better choice.. Is American...
How can anyone complain?
06-05-07, 07:58 AM
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Call it competitive planning.. BMW and Mercedes will have some 500+ horsepower offerings to compete with the CTS-V. Instead of "meeting" the horsepower of the "current" M5 (which last time backfired on Cadillac as the "new" M5 had much more power), Cadillac is thinking ahead...
06-05-07, 08:02 AM
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The current STS-V starts at around $25k more than the current CTS-V. That's just the way it is. Why? Nobody knows. I've never even SEEN an STS-V. I see CTS-Vs all the time. The STS-V is way over-priced - like the XLR-V. There's no reason to over-price the CTS-V now...
06-05-07, 08:27 AM
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The current STS-V starts at around $25k more than the current CTS-V. That's just the way it is. Why? Nobody knows. I've never even SEEN an STS-V. I see CTS-Vs all the time. The STS-V is way over-priced - like the XLR-V. There's no reason to over-price the CTS-V now...
GM will lose big $$ if they try to sell a supercharged LS7 for $65k.