2009 Cadillac CTS-V will/not have 600HP Blue Devil engine (Update: 505HP Z06 engine)
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Great, so now my car will be obsolete in less than 18 months! ![Sad](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
Nah, I knew this was coming for a while, and I still don't think it's going to be a 7.0L, hand-built LS7 with a blower and 600HP, but it will definitely be a pushrod motor (maybe a blown 6.2 at 550HP?). Whatever it gets, this car still won't be any more of a drag racer than the existing car, but it definitely handles like its on rails!
I've got a pic of the new rear and exhaust routing. It looks as if the housing nearly fits the same dimensions as the current Getrag, but it will be made of steel instead of aluminum. They've also revised the mounting points to help reduce stress on the front snub mount [which helps to control pinion angle] and reduce wheelhop. The fluid capacity is still waaay too small (mine takes less than 2.5 qts), so it appears they have integrated an electric pump and temperature sensor at the bottom of the housing for a remote-mounted fluid cooler.
The only other question that remains is if there will be an option for an auto tranny. If so, I don't know what they're going to use other than the 6L80 that's currently in the XLR and STS-V.
I just picked up an STS-V as a daily driver, and I gotta say it's a bargain if you shop around. Sure, the car stickers above $70K, but high volume V-series dealers and those taking factory concessions have been letting '06s go for $58K untitled and '07s a few ticks above $60K.
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Nah, I knew this was coming for a while, and I still don't think it's going to be a 7.0L, hand-built LS7 with a blower and 600HP, but it will definitely be a pushrod motor (maybe a blown 6.2 at 550HP?). Whatever it gets, this car still won't be any more of a drag racer than the existing car, but it definitely handles like its on rails!
I've got a pic of the new rear and exhaust routing. It looks as if the housing nearly fits the same dimensions as the current Getrag, but it will be made of steel instead of aluminum. They've also revised the mounting points to help reduce stress on the front snub mount [which helps to control pinion angle] and reduce wheelhop. The fluid capacity is still waaay too small (mine takes less than 2.5 qts), so it appears they have integrated an electric pump and temperature sensor at the bottom of the housing for a remote-mounted fluid cooler.
The only other question that remains is if there will be an option for an auto tranny. If so, I don't know what they're going to use other than the 6L80 that's currently in the XLR and STS-V.
I just picked up an STS-V as a daily driver, and I gotta say it's a bargain if you shop around. Sure, the car stickers above $70K, but high volume V-series dealers and those taking factory concessions have been letting '06s go for $58K untitled and '07s a few ticks above $60K.
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It's the BMW 335i and Lexus IS350 that are missing an LSD, and sorely need one.
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I knew the CTS-V had IRS but I thought, or so was told that it did not have LSD. I guess I should have looked at the owner's manual instead of relying on a salesmen.
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BAD SALESMAN!! VERY BAD! You go back to your corner and sit!
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Although this CTS-V prototype sports a noticeable bulge in the hood, our best information says there's nothing but a normally aspirated 7.0-liter V8 under the hood.
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The Corvette Z07 will get a supercharger for its 7.0-liter V8 with horsepower expected in the 600-625 range.
Date posted: 06-08-2007
SANTA MONICA, Calif. — Despite various rumors of a supercharged V8 under the hood, the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V will use a normally aspirated 7.0-liter V8 when it goes on sale in 2008.
New pictures of the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V surfaced recently and as usual, they were accompanied by a flood of speculation about what lies under the hood. Most of that rumor was fueled by the hood itself, as it was sporting a rather large bulge that seemed to indicate the presence of a supercharger.
One popular theory says that bulge is hiding a supercharged version of the 430-horsepower LS3 used in the 2008 Corvette. Another source claims the CTS-V will get an even more potent supercharged power plant with as much as 600 hp. That engine would be a detuned version of the nearly 700-hp blown LS7 slated for the $100,000-plus Corvette Z07, according to the same source.
According to our information, however, none of those rumors are true as the CTS-V won't be supercharged at all. Instead it will borrow the normally aspirated 7.0-liter LS7 from the current Corvette Z06.
With 505 hp and 470 pound-feet of torque, the LS7 should have more than enough grunt to get the roughly 3,800-pound CTS-V up to speed. Consider that Mercedes-Benz uses an engine with nearly identical specs in its 4,000-pound E63 AMG, which is the quickest sedan we've ever tested.
Don't expect 700 horses from the Corvette Z07 either. It's more likely to show up with around 625 hp — enough to top the latest Viper without tearing the tires off the rims.
Expect to see the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V in dealers next year with a price tag significantly below its European counterparts.
What this means to you: Regardless of which rumor is true, the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V is guaranteed to have enough power to play with the big boys in the luxury super-sedan class.
Source: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=121130#2
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Yes, America’s muscle car is back. Cadillac’s red-hot CTS-V is undergoing final testing before the 500bhp monster is unleashed at the Detroit motor show early next year, ready for a European debut this time next year. There’s no word on pricing, but given Cadillac’s desperate need to boost its minuscule European sales base, expect the V to cost around £38,000 – enough to temp some buyers away from its AMG, Motorsport and RS rivals.
Despite the wild rumours circulating about the CTS-V’s proposed powerplant – with extravagant claims of an 800bhp supercharged V8 topping the wish list – CAR’s sources say that the Cadillac will be powered by the formidable 7.0-litre smallblock all-alloy V8 found under the Corvette Z06’s bonnet. Look closely past this mule’s harlequin disguise and you’ll see the bold power bulges needed to house the V8 engine and still meet stringent pedestrian impact regulations.
While lesser CTS models pack direct injection V6 units, only a rumbling V8 would do for the performance flagship. And the LS7 powerplant is one hell of an engine. The dry-sumped bent eight is hand-finished, features titanium con-rods, a forged steel crankshaft and develops 512bhp at 6300rpm and a mighty 470lb ft at 4800rpm, making it GM’s most powerful passenger car engine and largest-displacement small-block to date.
It’s hooked up to a slick Tremec six-speed manual transmission, driving all four wheels through GM’s all-wheel drive architecture that’s been tuned for a natural rear-drive feel. In a bid to trim development costs, it’s likely that the engine will be dropped into the CTS-V wholesale, giving the Cadillac some serious tyre-shredding performance.
Expect the 1900kg CTS-V to blast to 60mph in just under five seconds with electronic limiters calling it a day at an easy 185mph – enough poke to take on both the smaller M3 and bigger M5. But Cadillac’s insiders believe the CTS-V’s intelligent all-wheel drive will give it a useful real-world advantage, allowing drivers to use more power more often.
And after countless laps of the Nürburgring, the top dog Caddy’s wishbone front and multi-link rear suspension, brakes and steering have also been given a dramatic makeover. The big 4866mm-long Cadillac will ride on uprated springs and dampers to keep tighter control on unwanted body movement, while the steering will be tuned for greater feel. This mule even has a roll cage plumbed in, hinting that the CTS-V will also undergo a number of key chassis reinforcements.
It should. Behind those 19-inch alloys sit four-piston Brembo brakes gripping 355mm vented discs up front and 365mm vented rotors at the rear. And the CTS-V’s StabiliTrak – Cadillac’s holistic safety system that integrates the car’s four-channel ABS with the full-function traction control and hydraulic brake assist – has been heavily recalibrated to take into account the engine’s performance.
And it will look the part too – the CTS’s striking edgy looks will be complemented by a kerb-kissing body kit, vast mesh-filled front grille, drainpipe-sized twin exhausts, bi-Xenon headlamps and plenty of chrome around the windows, boot lip and grille. The V’s cabin will look equally enticing too, with its trio of deep-set circular dials, sleek centre console, pumping Bose stereo system, grippy front bucket seats and ultra-cool LED interior lights.
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Despite the wild rumours circulating about the CTS-V’s proposed powerplant – with extravagant claims of an 800bhp supercharged V8 topping the wish list – CAR’s sources say that the Cadillac will be powered by the formidable 7.0-litre smallblock all-alloy V8 found under the Corvette Z06’s bonnet. Look closely past this mule’s harlequin disguise and you’ll see the bold power bulges needed to house the V8 engine and still meet stringent pedestrian impact regulations.
While lesser CTS models pack direct injection V6 units, only a rumbling V8 would do for the performance flagship. And the LS7 powerplant is one hell of an engine. The dry-sumped bent eight is hand-finished, features titanium con-rods, a forged steel crankshaft and develops 512bhp at 6300rpm and a mighty 470lb ft at 4800rpm, making it GM’s most powerful passenger car engine and largest-displacement small-block to date.
It’s hooked up to a slick Tremec six-speed manual transmission, driving all four wheels through GM’s all-wheel drive architecture that’s been tuned for a natural rear-drive feel. In a bid to trim development costs, it’s likely that the engine will be dropped into the CTS-V wholesale, giving the Cadillac some serious tyre-shredding performance.
Expect the 1900kg CTS-V to blast to 60mph in just under five seconds with electronic limiters calling it a day at an easy 185mph – enough poke to take on both the smaller M3 and bigger M5. But Cadillac’s insiders believe the CTS-V’s intelligent all-wheel drive will give it a useful real-world advantage, allowing drivers to use more power more often.
And after countless laps of the Nürburgring, the top dog Caddy’s wishbone front and multi-link rear suspension, brakes and steering have also been given a dramatic makeover. The big 4866mm-long Cadillac will ride on uprated springs and dampers to keep tighter control on unwanted body movement, while the steering will be tuned for greater feel. This mule even has a roll cage plumbed in, hinting that the CTS-V will also undergo a number of key chassis reinforcements.
It should. Behind those 19-inch alloys sit four-piston Brembo brakes gripping 355mm vented discs up front and 365mm vented rotors at the rear. And the CTS-V’s StabiliTrak – Cadillac’s holistic safety system that integrates the car’s four-channel ABS with the full-function traction control and hydraulic brake assist – has been heavily recalibrated to take into account the engine’s performance.
And it will look the part too – the CTS’s striking edgy looks will be complemented by a kerb-kissing body kit, vast mesh-filled front grille, drainpipe-sized twin exhausts, bi-Xenon headlamps and plenty of chrome around the windows, boot lip and grille. The V’s cabin will look equally enticing too, with its trio of deep-set circular dials, sleek centre console, pumping Bose stereo system, grippy front bucket seats and ultra-cool LED interior lights.
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To anyone who says this is too much, why can't Cadillac have halo cars like MB's AMG, BMW's M, Audi's S and RS, or Lexus "-F"?
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To anyone who says this is too much, why can't Cadillac have halo cars like MB's AMG, BMW's M, Audi's S and RS, or Lexus "-F"?
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