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Old 06-29-07, 06:45 AM
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Thumbs up C&D Magazine 08/07 - The Lightning Lap - 335i beats RS4

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-lap-2007.html
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Virginia International Raceway (VIR)

If the 335i beats the RS4, what happens with the new M3?

Here's where they are discussing how it beat the M Coupe

Between the two, you’d expect the 335i to be more supple over bumps, have vastly more interior room, and be as refined as a Lexus. But what floored us was that the 335i’s best lap (3:10.5) was 1.2 seconds quicker than the M coupe’s. It’s a case of neutral handling over outright speed. Whereas the M coupe had understeer at turn-in that switched to oversteer at the exit, the 335i was nearly perfectly balanced everywhere and made up most of its time in the region between the braking zone and turn apex. The 335i does everything remarkably well, which is why many of us at Car and Driver think it’s the best all-around car in the world..
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Well even I can admit C&D has a total thing for bimmers. I can also say that on most tracks an RS4 will easily outrun a stock 335i just by virtue of it's straight line speed. Still, it is nice to see a test where they mention the tossabilty of the car.

Other results were interesting too, like the Z4m (you would think it's low weight and awesome chassis would get it a better time), and the GT500.
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Im getting sick of the 335i. I'm sure its a great car, but the greatest overall in the world?

Come on.
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C&D =

"perfectly balanced," is a term reserved for Ferrari.
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C&D is a joke.
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Perhaps the title should be changed to:

C&D Magazine 08/07 - The Lightning Lap - IS350 beats RS4

One would think it is the second coming of Christ if CD had this headline

Drive the 335 for yourselves to evaluate.. The Ultimate Drive is making its rounds across the country...Check here for dates in your area http://www.bmwusa.com/BMW2003/Templa...ACHEHINT=Guest It is free..Just show up to the event like my buddy Och. Once you have driven the car, then you can truly give your two cents.
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
The Ultimate Drive is making its rounds across the country...Check here for dates in your area http://www.bmwusa.com/BMW2003/Templa...ACHEHINT=Guest
I wish BMW had something like this in Canada.

I'd be all over it. I wonder why they think Canadians don't like to drive????
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Perhaps the title should be changed to:

C&D Magazine 08/07 - The Lightning Lap - IS350 beats RS4

One would think it is the second coming of Christ if CD had this headline

Drive the 335 for yourselves to evaluate.. The Ultimate Drive is making its rounds across the country...Check here for dates in your area http://www.bmwusa.com/BMW2003/Templa...ACHEHINT=Guest It is free..Just show up to the event like my buddy Och. Once you have driven the car, then you can truly give your two cents.
I am going to ask you and others not to "imply" on a Lexus board any bias you feel we probably have.

In the G37 vs 335 thread, I said my 2 cents. The 335 might just be the best all around car (sedan) in the road. I think it is a fabulous car.

Don't expect the world to think what you think or what C&D thinks. People will have their opinions and will continue to have them here.
 
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geez they are acting like it completely owned it, .7 sec on a 4.2 mile track with ~3:10 laptimes on both. If you wanna see completely owned look at the Z06 time vs everyone else
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Originally Posted by Hameed
I wish BMW had something like this in Canada.

I'd be all over it. I wonder why they think Canadians don't like to drive????
I am very suprised that they are not ofering the event in Canada when their is a BMW dealership right in Toronto.. I drove past it when I was there
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
I am very suprised that they are not ofering the event in Canada when their is a BMW dealership right in Toronto.. I drove past it when I was there
There are tons of dealers all over the GTA (Greater Toronto Area). There is huge one less than 5 mins from my home in Oakville - Budd's BMW - in fact they own the Jaguar, Volvo, Land Rover dealers too all on the same road.
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Originally Posted by Hameed
There are tons of dealers all over the GTA (Greater Toronto Area). There is huge one less than 5 mins from my home in Oakville - Budd's BMW - in fact they own the Jaguar, Volvo, Land Rover dealers too all on the same road.
Itmight be the same one I saw.. My friend lives on Gerrard Street East in Toronto a mile or two from the dealership.
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Perhaps the title should be changed to:

C&D Magazine 08/07 - The Lightning Lap - IS350 beats RS4

One would think it is the second coming of Christ if CD had this headline
Subscriptions ordered left and right.. sticky post j/k

Realistically, everybody needs to take the good with the bad. I'm amazed how people quickly discount the opinions of these writers. This is what they do for a living, they do have credentials. Somehow I think somebody, somewhere has a huge chart listing the positive and negative reviews of their favorite auto manufacturer and keep score.. the one that skews to their favor gets credibility.

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Just saw an rs4 this morning and that thing is visually and audibly awesome
But a stock 335 is that better than an rs4?

My neighbors 335i has been in the dealer for a week twice already

I'll ask for a test drive when he gets it back, hopefully the break-in period is over
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