August Road & Track G37 vs. 335 (+ Edmunds Comparo)
07-02-07, 08:26 AM
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I agree. The weight of cars these days is balooning to the point where carmakers have to keep dumping more and more fuel into the cylinders just so the car meets or beats the previous model's 0-60 times. And because they also have to meet or beat the hwy MPG estimates, they keep putting taller final gears into the transmission, and and build more fuel-saving mappings into the engine and tranmission programme. Which makes it harder and harder to fully exploit the drivetrain's true potential. Even more importantly to me, is the negative impact all that weight has on handling.
07-02-07, 08:32 AM
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I'm very entertained by edmunds. They continually mention the Beemer's greater feel, yet in terms of driver feedback the 3series has become more tame with each passing generation.
07-02-07, 08:34 AM
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The telepathic steering feel is as present as the previous generation. And compared to the competition, they still provide better driver feedback.
07-02-07, 09:41 AM
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Comparison Test: 2007 BMW 335i vs. 2008 Infiniti G37
Deceptively Close
Whether you consider this battle a pedigreed recasting of the Camaro-Mustang rivalry or a superficial spat to be had between handsomely paid professionals, one thing's certain: Neither coupe would have gotten this much engine if the other didn't exist.
Very likely, they wouldn't stop or handle as well, either. Nor would they each offer an active steering system as an option. At heart, the 2007 BMW 335i and 2008 Infiniti G37 are chasing the same driver.
And by most standards, the Infiniti G37 is an impressive car and a lot of fun. But it isn't as quick as the BMW 335i, nor does it engage its driver with equal commitment.
Due to its higher price and shorter features list, the 3 Series won this test by only 2.3 points. But contained within those points are all the details that make it a more intimate and involving driving partner.
"Nearly every aspect of our drive feels more natural in the 335i," one of our editors recorded in the notebook for this comparison. "I'm not sure what the price difference is, but the BMW feels $15,000 better."
The manufacturers provided Edmunds these vehicles for the purposes of evaluation.
Deceptively Close
Whether you consider this battle a pedigreed recasting of the Camaro-Mustang rivalry or a superficial spat to be had between handsomely paid professionals, one thing's certain: Neither coupe would have gotten this much engine if the other didn't exist.
Very likely, they wouldn't stop or handle as well, either. Nor would they each offer an active steering system as an option. At heart, the 2007 BMW 335i and 2008 Infiniti G37 are chasing the same driver.
And by most standards, the Infiniti G37 is an impressive car and a lot of fun. But it isn't as quick as the BMW 335i, nor does it engage its driver with equal commitment.
Due to its higher price and shorter features list, the 3 Series won this test by only 2.3 points. But contained within those points are all the details that make it a more intimate and involving driving partner.
"Nearly every aspect of our drive feels more natural in the 335i," one of our editors recorded in the notebook for this comparison. "I'm not sure what the price difference is, but the BMW feels $15,000 better."
The manufacturers provided Edmunds these vehicles for the purposes of evaluation.
07-02-07, 11:20 AM
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"Nearly every aspect of our drive feels more natural in the 335i," one of our editors recorded in the notebook for this comparison. "I'm not sure what the price difference is, but the BMW feels $15,000 better."
The manufacturers provided Edmunds these vehicles for the purposes of evaluation.
Nevertheless, reading this Edmunds test I felt like was reading Car and Driver. Not becuase the BMW was chosen the winner, not a surprising result by any means, but because the whole article seemed to harp more on what they considered weaknesses of the G than fully explaining the BMW's strengths.
07-02-07, 04:44 PM
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BMW reports their weight as unladen - which is higher than curb weight.
edit: acutally curb weight does not have to include fuel but might. However since fuel tanks vary in size, if you ask me, the only "clean" way to report acurate weights is unladen.....
edit2:and if you do a search on that, you will see that this has been discussed way too much on this board.
edit: acutally curb weight does not have to include fuel but might. However since fuel tanks vary in size, if you ask me, the only "clean" way to report acurate weights is unladen.....
edit2:and if you do a search on that, you will see that this has been discussed way too much on this board.
07-02-07, 04:48 PM
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For its vehicle class though, I still feel it is the benchmark.
07-02-07, 05:08 PM
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07-02-07, 07:43 PM
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Do you know if BMW still includes that 170lbs average driver weight in their unladen weight specs? I know everyone always disputes BMWs unladen weight, but BMW does things their own way so the standard definition doesn't fully apply. Anyway, just wondering about the driver weight since I haven't keept up with it.
07-02-07, 10:03 PM
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Apples and oranges. Anyone comparing a BMW to an exotic sports car really just wants to argue to argue. See thread title. We are comparing the G37 and 335. If you want to compare other cars in its class, fine. But you are deviating a bit too much if you want to throw a Ferrari F40 into the mix. You are grasping for straws and don't really have an argument.