genearch

Still amazes me how the people here on CL are completely obsessed with sales stats of Toyota (is this ClubLexus or ClubToyota?) and as a comparison the rest of the automobile manufacturers. It's quite sad to watch this thread get hundreds of views and the typical suspects will debate how the numbers should skew in their favor.


I visit plenty of forums, BMW, MB, Mini, Porsche and a few others and have yet to find any group of people that obsess over sales numbers, as well as JD Power reports. (At least those reports that favor Toyota/Lexus)

I try to think that many in this forum are simply auto enthusiasts, but at the end of the day, does it really matter how many cars have been sold in the previous month? Like I've said before, McD's sells more burgers, does that make them superior in some way?

Sheesh...

IsraelRX

1st. Lexus is Toyota, the more profitable Toyota, the more R&D money for Lexus.

2nd. There is no one definition to Auto enthusiasts. One can like sports cars, the other off road and another would be all about the styling...so many shapes and forms to love cars. I for one am intruiged by the car industry as an industry, this includes the capability to make quality cars, and the way to sell them. Face it Toyota is probably the Best car company in the world, when it comes to selling cars and making them.

Does it mean I would automatically buy Toyota? No. But I do like reading about them and how they conduct themselves.
Without sales, there would be no cars...

Trexus

Quote:
I try to think that many in this forum are simply auto enthusiasts, but at the end of the day, does it really matter how many cars have been sold in the previous month? Like I've said before, McD's sells more burgers, does that make them superior in some way?

Sheesh...

Relax, take a chill pill, drink a glass of kool-aid. Most of us are just analyzing and rooting for Lexus/Toyota...

Gojirra99

BREA, Calif.--American Suzuki Motor Corporation today announced sales of 10,325 automobiles in June, an increase of nine percent over the same month last year and the highest June sales volume in company history. Year-to-date sales for 2007 now stand at 57,488 vehicles, one percent ahead of mid-year 2006. For all of 2006, Suzuki sold 100,990 vehicles – the first time in its 22-year history the automaker enjoyed automobile sales of more than 100,000.

Suzuki Auto’s record June sales volume was led by the sales growth of its all-new midsize crossover SUV, the XL7, which sold 2,076 units, an impressive 121 percent increase over last year’s sales of the outgoing model. Sales of the SX4 compact crossover also helped drive the company’s strong June results, which are poised to continue well into the summer driving season and beyond. The next chapter in its growth story was revealed earlier this spring, when Suzuki unveiled the next addition to its expanding product line, the all-new 2008 SX4 sedan. That vehicle goes on sale in Suzuki dealerships nationwide this fall.

“Suzuki’s record-setting first-half sales performance, coupled with the eagerly anticipated arrival of the SX4 sedan later this year, puts us on track to sustain our growth throughout 2007,” said Mark Harano, president of American Suzuki’s Automotive Operations. “Although auto industry sales have been tempered this year by many factors, including the rising cost of fuel, Suzuki has been able to weather the storm with its lineup of affordable and value-packed vehicles.”

American Suzuki’s product line includes the all-new XL7 midsize crossover SUV, the all-wheel drive SX4 compact sport crossover, the media-acclaimed Grand Vitara, the popular Forenza sedan and Forenza Wagon, the five-door Reno and the Aerio sedan.

In addition to this strong vehicle offering, Suzuki features America’s #1 Warranty with an industry-leading 100,000-mile/seven-year, zero deductible, fully-transferable powertrain limited warranty.

LexFather

I think Andrew and Flipside and the usual guys that go through the trouble for posting this information should be commended for it. Like you, I am on multiple sites and people really enjoy how we are the only ones to gather nearly ALL monthly results, every month, in a timely fashion.

We then have threads we can easily find and link when its time to prove facts or disprove comments made by people.

Clearly it DOES matter how many are sold the previous month, the car companies provide this data to the public!! Its not like we have to figure it out. They are in business to sell more and more in most instances. These sales figures enable companies to show trends and what is working/not working.

Sales=Business. This is Clublexus, the best enthusiast site (IMO) around and people have the opportunity to voice their thoughts from Andy Roony's last hairs on his eyebrows to Lexus sales data for last month.

xioix

Check out the GM forum, it has its own section for just monthly sales results, they probably talk more about Toyota than what goes on around here

genearch

And therein lies the root of the problem. Why do you feel you have to "prove" or "disprove" something? This reeks of insecurity.

Actually, a public company is required to publish sales data

XeroK00L

This is what a forum is for. Without any argument/debate/opposite opinions/convincing each other ClubLexus may just as well be a PR news site.

Gojirra99

This thread(& all other threads in this forum) should be about the CONTENT of the posts, please refrain from talking about the people making the posts in this thread or similar threads in the past, that's spelled out clearly in the forum rules, we should know that by now.

encore888

I find the sales data fascinating as it illustrates where the market is going. Otherwise, just ask Jaguar, or look at the flagship market for the Tier 2 brands.

It's also a bit sporting, like the horse race. I also follow the aircraft ordering business, where there are major sales campaigns, and monthly/weekly totals are big news. And yes, with sales comes bragging rights in some cases.

Now hopefully Incendiary will put up his luxury sales charts.

GFerg

Chicago, July 3 (Reuters) - The following are the 20
top-selling vehicles in the United States through June of 2007
as reported by the automakers.

Total sales of the top 20 vehicles rose 4 percent or
116,756 units to 3,003,179.

Following is a list of the top-20 selling vehicles, ranked
by total units.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...0070703?rpc=44

LexFather

Wow, the Accord is down to 6th! Amazing, Toyota will have the top 2 selling cars in America. CLEARLY, they know what most consumers want.

Gojirra99

FOR RELEASE: 2007-07-03

GM Reports 326,300 June Deliveries


(Monthly comparison percentages are adjusted for sales days unless noted. Annual and calendar year-to-date comparisons are unadjusted.)

GMC Acadia, Saturn OUTLOOK and Buick Enclave Achieve Industry Mid-Crossover Segment Leadership with Significant Retail and Total Sales Increases
Daily Rental Sales Down 22 Percent In June; Down Almost 100,000 in First Half of 2007
All-New Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra Boost Full-Size Pickup Total and Retail Sales Increase in First Half of 2007 Compared With A Year Ago

DETROIT – GM dealers in the United States delivered 326,300 vehicles in June, down 24 percent, compared with year-ago monthly sales. The decline was partly attributed to a planned reduction of an additional 13,487 daily rental sale vehicles in the month. GM now has taken more than 92,000 daily rental vehicles out of the sales totals in 2007.

“Given the planned reduction in daily rental sales, we expected June would be a tough comparison to a year ago. Our retail performance for the month was also below the solid running rate we’ve experienced for the first half of the year which we attribute to a soft industry and lower incentive spending than our competitors. However, we continue to believe that maintaining a disciplined approach to both incentives and daily rental car sales is key to making our marketing strategy work in the long run,” said Mark LaNeve, vice president, GM North American Sales, Service and Marketing.

“We continue our focus on the retail side of the equation and first-half results were solid,” LaNeve added. “We are delighted with the continuing success of new products, especially the GMC Acadia, Saturn OUTLOOK and Buick Enclave. As with many of our vehicles, these all-new crossovers offer great fuel economy, terrific performance and outstanding value. For example, a year ago we were selling only about 3,000 mid-utility crossover vehicles. This June we blew the doors off the segment with deliveries in excess of 15,000.”

Increased sales of the Saturn AURA, as well as the new mid-size crossovers GMC Acadia, Saturn OUTLOOK and Buick Enclave, demonstrate GM’s strong positioning in the marketplace for fuel-efficient vehicles. The GMC Acadia, Saturn OUTLOOK and Buick Enclave had retail sales of more than 12,000 vehicles, pushing a significant retail increase in GM’s mid-crossover segment. GM’s total sales of more than 15,000 vehicles in this segment pushed monthly performance up more than 377 percent, compared with the same month last year.

The all-new Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra full-size pickup trucks – fuel efficiency leaders in their class – helped the GM full-size pickup segment post a first half 2007 sales increase, compared with the same period a year ago, in a challenging industry environment. The Silverado and Sierra also offer the best warranty coverage and residual values in segment, a winning combination for these products.

“We’re seeing increased residual values for our products as a result of staying aligned and disciplined to our North American turnaround and market growth plans. For customers, this means providing industry-leading products in terms of design, segment fuel economy, warranty coverage and performance,” LaNeve added. “This translates to a beneficial cost of ownership experience. With new products such as the Cadillac CTS and Chevrolet Malibu coming to dealer showrooms later this year, we expect to build on this customer enthusiasm.”

Certified Used Vehicles

June 2007 sales for all certified GM brands, including GM Certified Used Vehicles, Cadillac Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles, Saturn Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles, Saab Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles, and HUMMER Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles, were 45,876 units, up 6 percent from last June. Total year-to-date certified GM sales are 273,241 units, up 4 percent from the same period last year.

GM Certified Used Vehicles, the industry’s top-selling manufacturer-certified used brand, posted 40,423 sales, up 9 percent from last June. Year-to-date sales for GM Certified Used Vehicles are 240,138 units, up 5 percent from the same period in 2006.

Cadillac Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles posted June sales of 3,108 units, down 14 percent from last June. Saturn Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles sold 1,484 units in June, down 9 percent. Saab Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles sold 764 units, down 11 percent from last June, and HUMMER Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles sold 97 units, up nearly 7 percent.

“GM Certified Used Vehicles, the industry’s top-selling manufacturer-certified brand, posted a strong performance in June, leading the segment with sales of 40,423 units, up 9 percent from last June,” said LaNeve. “GM Certified is on track to build on this momentum toward another record performance for the category for 2007.”

GM North America Reports June and Second-Quarter 2007 Production, 2007 Third-Quarter Production Forecast Unchanged at 1.075 Million Vehicles

In June, GM North America produced 404,000 vehicles (142,000 cars and 262,000 trucks). This is down 56,000 units or 12 percent compared to June 2006 when the region produced 460,000 vehicles (173,000 cars and 287,000 trucks). (Production totals include joint venture production of 21,000 vehicles in June 2007 and 27,000 vehicles in June 2006.)

GM North America built 1.141 million vehicles (401,000 cars and 740,000 trucks) in the second-quarter of 2007. This is down 96,000 vehicles or 8 percent compared to second-quarter of 2006 when the region produced 1.237 million vehicles (462,000 cars and 775,000 trucks). The region’s 2007 third-quarter production forecast is unchanged at 1.075 million vehicles (377,000 cars and 698,000 trucks).

GM also announced revised 2007 second-quarter and third-quarter production forecasts for its international regions.

GM Europe –The region’s 2007 second-quarter production forecast is revised at 463,000 vehicles, down 5,000 units from last month’s guidance. In the second-quarter of 2006 the region built 495,000 vehicles. The region’s 2007 third-quarter production forecast remains unchanged at 389,000 vehicles. In the third-quarter of 2006 the region built 374,000 vehicles.

GM Asia Pacific – GM Asia Pacific’s 2007 second-quarter production forecast is revised at 569,000 vehicles, up 1,000 units from last month’s guidance. In the second-quarter of 2006 the region built 482,000 vehicles. The region’s 2007 third-quarter production forecast is revised at 518,000 vehicles, down 6,000 units from last month’s guidance. In the third-quarter of 2006 the region built 433,000 vehicles.

GM Latin America, Africa and the Middle East – The region’s 2007 second-quarter production forecast is revised at 234,000 vehicles, up 1,000 units from last month’s guidance. In the second-quarter of 2006 the region built 206,000 vehicles. The region’s 2007 third-quarter production forecast is unchanged at 258,000 vehicles. In the third-quarter of 2006 the region built 215,000 vehicles.

General Motors Corp. (NYSE: GM), the world’s largest automaker, has been the annual global industry sales leader for 76 years. Founded in 1908, GM today employs about 280,000 people around the world. With global headquarters in Detroit, GM manufactures its cars and trucks in 33 countries. In 2006, nearly 9.1 million GM cars and trucks were sold globally under the following brands: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, GM Daewoo, Holden, HUMMER, Opel, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn and Vauxhall. GM’s OnStar subsidiary is the industry leader in vehicle safety, security and information services. More information on GM can be found at www.gm.com.

Note: GM sales and production results are available on GM Media OnLine at http://media.gm.com by clicking on News, then Sales/Production. In this press release and related comments by General Motors management, we use words like "expect," "anticipate," "estimate," "forecast," "objective," "plan," "goal" and similar expressions to identify forward-looking statements, representing our current judgment about possible future events. We believe these judgments are reasonable, but actual results may differ materially due to a variety of important factors. Among other items, such factors might include: the pace of introductions and market acceptance of new products; the effect of competition on our markets and significant changes in the competitive environment; price increases or shortages of fuel; and changes in laws, regulations or tax rates. GM’s most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q provide information about these factors, which may be revised or supplemented in future reports to the SEC on Form 10-Q or 8-K

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doug_999

Come on Mike, the Accord is in its last year of the model cycle and the Corolla has 15.9% of its sales going to fleets....

LexBob2

Actually, it's impressive that the Accord can still show a 2.4% increase in sales with many potential buyers knowing that it's in the last model year for this gen.