97 supra TT v. today's sports car
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i've always love the supra back in the days....too bad they discontinued it and who knows when or if it's coming back...but here's my question:
does the late model(97-98 supra TT) have a chance against today's sports car such as 2007 350Z, G35C, mustang GT, 2007 335i, Evo IX, STi, s2k, TL-S...all stock.
a) in 1/4 mile
b) high speed 100+mph
c) around the track
discuss...thanks!
does the late model(97-98 supra TT) have a chance against today's sports car such as 2007 350Z, G35C, mustang GT, 2007 335i, Evo IX, STi, s2k, TL-S...all stock.
a) in 1/4 mile
b) high speed 100+mph
c) around the track
discuss...thanks!
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The Supra didn't even fare that well against some sports cars from its own time
I wouldn't call any of the cars on that list 'sports cars' except for the 350Z, S2000 and maybe Evo/STi
I'd bet that an Evo can beat it 0-60 and around a track, not sure at high speeds. The new 350Z would probably be close around a track, but it might lose. On a track the S2000 might fare decently depending on the track since its so much lighter, but I don't think it has the power for the 1/4 mile or at high speeds (I think)
The main appeal of a Supra is not how it performs stock, but the power you can make when you upgrade the boost. The engine is a monster. That said, I think it's a cool car, but it might be the most overrated car of all time
I wouldn't call any of the cars on that list 'sports cars' except for the 350Z, S2000 and maybe Evo/STi
I'd bet that an Evo can beat it 0-60 and around a track, not sure at high speeds. The new 350Z would probably be close around a track, but it might lose. On a track the S2000 might fare decently depending on the track since its so much lighter, but I don't think it has the power for the 1/4 mile or at high speeds (I think)
The main appeal of a Supra is not how it performs stock, but the power you can make when you upgrade the boost. The engine is a monster. That said, I think it's a cool car, but it might be the most overrated car of all time
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The Supra didn't even fare that well against some sports cars from its own time
I wouldn't call any of the cars on that list 'sports cars' except for the 350Z, S2000 and maybe Evo/STi
I'd bet that an Evo can beat it 0-60 and around a track, not sure at high speeds. The new 350Z would probably be close around a track, but it might lose. On a track the S2000 might fare decently depending on the track since its so much lighter, but I don't think it has the power for the 1/4 mile or at high speeds (I think)
The main appeal of a Supra is not how it performs stock, but the power you can make when you upgrade the boost. The engine is a monster. That said, I think it's a cool car, but it might be the most overrated car of all time
I wouldn't call any of the cars on that list 'sports cars' except for the 350Z, S2000 and maybe Evo/STi
I'd bet that an Evo can beat it 0-60 and around a track, not sure at high speeds. The new 350Z would probably be close around a track, but it might lose. On a track the S2000 might fare decently depending on the track since its so much lighter, but I don't think it has the power for the 1/4 mile or at high speeds (I think)
The main appeal of a Supra is not how it performs stock, but the power you can make when you upgrade the boost. The engine is a monster. That said, I think it's a cool car, but it might be the most overrated car of all time
WHAT?!?!? Did you grow up in a parallel universe?
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I just confirmed with Donnie Darko, the Toyota Supra is a FWD vehicle in the other universe.
edit: Donnie Darko also said the supra did NOT have 4 channel ABS with 4-pot front/2-pot rear supercar brakes, front and rear double-wishbone suspension. He also heard that the Supra weighed more than 60,000 lbs and had a drag coefficient of 1.
edit: Donnie Darko also said the supra did NOT have 4 channel ABS with 4-pot front/2-pot rear supercar brakes, front and rear double-wishbone suspension. He also heard that the Supra weighed more than 60,000 lbs and had a drag coefficient of 1.
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I'm not a Supra expert, but wasn't one of the reasons the Supra was killed was that it was getting too expensive for its level of performance? I know in 97 stock for stock the Corvette was definitely faster and around the same price, and it seemed like there were a few other cars that offered similar/better performance in the same price range. I could be wrong though
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I'm not a Supra expert, but wasn't one of the reasons the Supra was killed was that it was getting too expensive for its level of performance? I know in 97 stock for stock the Corvette was definitely faster and around the same price, and it seemed like there were a few other cars that offered similar/better performance in the same price range. I could be wrong though
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I'm not sure which, if any of these cars stock were faster than the Supra back then but I think they were all pretty close:
Rx-7, 300ZX, Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth, Pontiac Trans Am/Camaro Z28, I think even the turbo DSMs (Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon) were fairly fast and could be made to be as fast as a Supra pretty cheaply
I'm not saying the Supra was a bad car, but its stock performance wasn't what gave it the reputation it has today
Rx-7, 300ZX, Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth, Pontiac Trans Am/Camaro Z28, I think even the turbo DSMs (Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon) were fairly fast and could be made to be as fast as a Supra pretty cheaply
I'm not saying the Supra was a bad car, but its stock performance wasn't what gave it the reputation it has today
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I'm not sure which, if any of these cars stock were faster than the Supra back then but I think they were all pretty close:
Rx-7, 300ZX, Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth, Pontiac Trans Am/Camaro Z28, I think even the turbo DSMs (Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon) were fairly fast and could be made to be as fast as a Supra pretty cheaply
I'm not saying the Supra was a bad car, but its stock performance wasn't what gave it the reputation it has today
Rx-7, 300ZX, Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth, Pontiac Trans Am/Camaro Z28, I think even the turbo DSMs (Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon) were fairly fast and could be made to be as fast as a Supra pretty cheaply
I'm not saying the Supra was a bad car, but its stock performance wasn't what gave it the reputation it has today
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There is so much nonsense from very ill informed folks in this thread. I still have the original R&T, C&D, Autombile, and Mt comparos of the supra tt against the other cars of the time and it fared very well, especially in braking and 1/4 mile tests.
Also having owned a 93 TT (BPU' d' no less) as well as a RSP 97 TT (only 305 rwhp on Mustang dyno) and some of the aforementioned cars you queried (01 s2k and my present 06 evo rs), i can give your some first hand accounts.
S2K - powerwise it is no match for the supra, so all speed tests are out but it will hold its own in the handling department ith razorsharp reflexes. I would say depending on the layout (tight or fast), would determine a roadcourse winner.
Evo - 1/4 mile would probably be in the evos favor since it is awd and has a stock 2 step for launching, but just slighlty. Top speed would easily be in favor of the supra (if u disable the governor that is) because of the evos lower gearing and parasitic drivetrain loss due to awd. Road course wise, i think the evo would win with its combo of awd, agility, and lightweight prowness.
Now a supra modded is a whole different animal, and i think the only car that can / would keep ups is a z06 or a modded evo.
Also having owned a 93 TT (BPU' d' no less) as well as a RSP 97 TT (only 305 rwhp on Mustang dyno) and some of the aforementioned cars you queried (01 s2k and my present 06 evo rs), i can give your some first hand accounts.
S2K - powerwise it is no match for the supra, so all speed tests are out but it will hold its own in the handling department ith razorsharp reflexes. I would say depending on the layout (tight or fast), would determine a roadcourse winner.
Evo - 1/4 mile would probably be in the evos favor since it is awd and has a stock 2 step for launching, but just slighlty. Top speed would easily be in favor of the supra (if u disable the governor that is) because of the evos lower gearing and parasitic drivetrain loss due to awd. Road course wise, i think the evo would win with its combo of awd, agility, and lightweight prowness.
Now a supra modded is a whole different animal, and i think the only car that can / would keep ups is a z06 or a modded evo.
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Btw - if i found a mint supra tt, i would easily trade my 400whp evo in heatbeat for it. It is now a very nostalgic car, one i should have never sold in the first place
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The Supra didn't even fare that well against some sports cars from its own time
I wouldn't call any of the cars on that list 'sports cars' except for the 350Z, S2000 and maybe Evo/STi
I'd bet that an Evo can beat it 0-60 and around a track, not sure at high speeds. The new 350Z would probably be close around a track, but it might lose. On a track the S2000 might fare decently depending on the track since its so much lighter, but I don't think it has the power for the 1/4 mile or at high speeds (I think)
The main appeal of a Supra is not how it performs stock, but the power you can make when you upgrade the boost. The engine is a monster. That said, I think it's a cool car, but it might be the most overrated car of all time
I wouldn't call any of the cars on that list 'sports cars' except for the 350Z, S2000 and maybe Evo/STi
I'd bet that an Evo can beat it 0-60 and around a track, not sure at high speeds. The new 350Z would probably be close around a track, but it might lose. On a track the S2000 might fare decently depending on the track since its so much lighter, but I don't think it has the power for the 1/4 mile or at high speeds (I think)
The main appeal of a Supra is not how it performs stock, but the power you can make when you upgrade the boost. The engine is a monster. That said, I think it's a cool car, but it might be the most overrated car of all time
I don't recall it losing a comparison. It simply outmuscled the Japanese competition at the time and was compared to exotics b/c its performance was extraordinary.