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Old 07-18-07 | 07:50 AM
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Tuesday, July 17, 2007

Lexus to boost hybrid production

David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON -- Lexus will increase the number of hybrids it builds, a senior executive said today, as Toyota's luxury division hopes to increase annual sales by 100,000 or more overall.

"Yes, there will be more hybrids in the Lexus lineup," said James H. Colon, vice president for sales and dealer development at a meeting of auto reporters here.

Lexus currently offers three hybrids, including two sedans and an SUV.

Colon said the 2008 Lexus LS 600h -- a new hybrid with a V-8 engine and 430 horsepower -- will start at $104,765. An optional $12,570 executive seating package offers an airplane-like seat that has a foot rest and can give the passenger a shiatsu massage. The car also features "rear-seat air purifier" and "power rear-door sunshades."

Lexus expects to sell just 2,000 per year. "Not a huge volume, but twice the combined sales of the highest-end Mercedes and BMW models," Colon said.

Reaching out to affluent drivers who care about the environment, Colon noted the new Lexus advertising slogan: "Gives more to the driver, takes less from the world."

Lexus has been increasing horsepower, towing capacity and the size of its vehicles, while using some of the efficiency gains from its hybrids to improve performance, rather than fuel economy alone.

But the fuel efficiency of the Lexus 600h is 20 miles per gallon in the city and 22 in the highway -- one of the lowest of any hybrids on the market.

Lexus thinks luxury car sales nationally will jump by 20 percent to 2.3 million by 2015, over the current 1.9 million. Lexus saw its sales jump 6.3 percent in the first half of 2007.

Lexus, with just 221 dealers nationwide, sells about 1,100 vehicles per dealership -- versus 500 for Mercedes-Benz and BMW, with each have about 350 dealers. Lexus dealers -- among the most profitable in the nation -- have invested $1 billion in new and expanded facilities in the last 5 years, including $700 million in the last two years.

Toyota has forecast that 16.3 million vehicles will be sold in 2007, down from 2006. But it predicts that sales will hit 18 million annually by sometime late next decade.

"As our tough and resilient industry gains traction after this little dip, we expect to see the Detroit Three on the mend and on the way to new success," Colon told the Washington Automotive Press Association.
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Reaching out to affluent drivers who care about the environment, Colon noted the new Lexus advertising slogan: "Gives more to the driver, takes less from the world."

But the fuel efficiency of the Lexus 600h is 20 miles per gallon in the city and 22 in the highway -- one of the lowest of any hybrids on the market.
Two more cheers for the marketing department. The LS 460 gets better mileage, but the fatter 22 MPG pig 600h "takes less from the world".
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I just wish the LS hybrid and other Lexus hybrids would get a bit more room in the back, and slightly longer so it can make up for the poor space (trunk).

I just wish the LS600h (extra 6") and LS600hL (extra two feet*)

* So both people in the back could enjoy the massage, and have better trunk space also. A 226.8" LS600hL would be 1.3" longer then a Maybach 57, and only 0.2" shorter then a Rolls Royce Phantom.

All they have to do is, have a better fuel economy for the car. I would love too see atleast 25-26 mpg, or atleast 30-32.
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the LS460 is CARB certified SULEV, it is far cleaner than most cars on the road.
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BMW sold 12 760Li's last month.
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the LS460 is CARB certified SULEV, it is far cleaner than most cars on the road.
You mean the 600hL ?
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Two more cheers for the marketing department. The LS 460 gets better mileage, but the fatter 22 MPG pig 600h "takes less from the world".
This car debuted I think 8-12 worlds firsts. It is the first AWD, CVT, V-8 hybrid in the world. It has more technology than Honda/Nissan/Mitsubishi (any other Japanese brand) entire product lines.

Yeah, its all marketing
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It does "takes less from the world" compared to the 430hp+ V12 equivalents in a fair apples to apples comparison.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
the LS460 is CARB certified SULEV, it is far cleaner than most cars on the road.
Still burns a lot of gas, which doesn't match up at all to the phrase "takes less from the world".

And check out the list of cars with a PZEV rating, which is even better than SULEV here

The site says that it only lists cars with a PZEV rating or better. The list of SULEV vehicles is probably even greater.

I think you should adjust your comment that "it is far cleaner than most cars on the road."

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What other ~440 hp vehicles out there has 21 mpg average?
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What other ~440 hp vehicles out there has 21 mpg average?
Plus you should be considering it's a heavy ~5000 lb.+ AWD high end luxury car which is loaded with luxury features which is necessary for this class, when considering gas mileage.
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my comment is fine, there are only a limited # of engines that meet PZEV.

And more importantly they only meet PZEV only in states that require them to.

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Great list ff.

Hey Mike, even your favorite, the Nissan Altima, is cleaner running than the LS600hL.
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Originally Posted by ff_
Two more cheers for the marketing department. The LS 460 gets better mileage, but the fatter 22 MPG pig 600h "takes less from the world".
while i don't necessarily think the car is that green, but please go compare the 600hl with other v12, like the 760il and the s600.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
my comment is fine, there are only a limited # of engines that meet PZEV.

And more importantly they only meet PZEV when sold in certain states.
There's a pretty nice list there of cars that meet PZEV. Enough to reverse your statement. Let's see how many cars are rated SULEV, and add them. I'm trying to find a list, and will post it when I do.


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