Fate the reason Chris Bangle is in charge...(I am searching BMW design history)
07-02-12, 07:37 PM
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Great thread! Here is some more information about bmw designers. http://www.bmwism.com/bmws_designers.htm
07-03-12, 11:06 AM
#20
i think one of the biggest impact i see from bangle is the 7 series. when the e65 first came out it was nothing short of goose bumps for most people. fast forward years, now you see the bulky high trunk line in so many cars, including the ls and s. and it has become the natural look as well, most people think it looks good.
however, i ask the same question to everyone who bring this up. when you buy a car now, do you want one that looks good now, or you are going to put it in the garage for years and drive it years later when it looks good "then"?
in some way, i don't mind bangle seeing the future, but leave it to the future. otherwise for all i care, something can be for the future but it can still look super weird now. i have to admit, now after so many years, i am totally fine with the e65 look already, and honestly i am somewhat ok with e60 as well. i have no problem driving cars of those styles now, but gosh i couldn't imagine myself doing so almost a decade ago.
however, i ask the same question to everyone who bring this up. when you buy a car now, do you want one that looks good now, or you are going to put it in the garage for years and drive it years later when it looks good "then"?
in some way, i don't mind bangle seeing the future, but leave it to the future. otherwise for all i care, something can be for the future but it can still look super weird now. i have to admit, now after so many years, i am totally fine with the e65 look already, and honestly i am somewhat ok with e60 as well. i have no problem driving cars of those styles now, but gosh i couldn't imagine myself doing so almost a decade ago.
07-03-12, 11:31 AM
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i think one of the biggest impact i see from bangle is the 7 series. when the e65 first came out it was nothing short of goose bumps for most people. fast forward years, now you see the bulky high trunk line in so many cars, including the ls and s. and it has become the natural look as well, most people think it looks good.
however, i ask the same question to everyone who bring this up. when you buy a car now, do you want one that looks good now, or you are going to put it in the garage for years and drive it years later when it looks good "then"?
in some way, i don't mind bangle seeing the future, but leave it to the future. otherwise for all i care, something can be for the future but it can still look super weird now. i have to admit, now after so many years, i am totally fine with the e65 look already, and honestly i am somewhat ok with e60 as well. i have no problem driving cars of those styles now, but gosh i couldn't imagine myself doing so almost a decade ago.
however, i ask the same question to everyone who bring this up. when you buy a car now, do you want one that looks good now, or you are going to put it in the garage for years and drive it years later when it looks good "then"?
in some way, i don't mind bangle seeing the future, but leave it to the future. otherwise for all i care, something can be for the future but it can still look super weird now. i have to admit, now after so many years, i am totally fine with the e65 look already, and honestly i am somewhat ok with e60 as well. i have no problem driving cars of those styles now, but gosh i couldn't imagine myself doing so almost a decade ago.
Maybe if Bangle was given a chance to evolve his designs they would have gotten prettier to look at. Instead he was basically forced out and he left with the courage of his convictions with design. To think Lexus now uses a BMWish dash!
I didn't like his designs at all initially and have warmed up to most. I see his influence everywhere and he did an amazing job making BMWs look different but still be a BMW to most people. Today it seems every company is moving into make everything look the same for the sake of an easy way to create brand identity.
Bangle is missed
07-03-12, 11:59 AM
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NIce post. While we both agree the E65 did bring future design to cars it sure as hell wasn't pretty. BMW had to lease the car for the first time and sell it aggressively. It did however influence many other cars no bigger influences than the double dash and the trunk. To me the F01 is actually the design that looks best after Bangle.
Maybe if Bangle was given a chance to evolve his designs they would have gotten prettier to look at. Instead he was basically forced out and he left with the courage of his convictions with design. To think Lexus now uses a BMWish dash!
I didn't like his designs at all initially and have warmed up to most. I see his influence everywhere and he did an amazing job making BMWs look different but still be a BMW to most people. Today it seems every company is moving into make everything look the same for the sake of an easy way to create brand identity.
Bangle is missed
Maybe if Bangle was given a chance to evolve his designs they would have gotten prettier to look at. Instead he was basically forced out and he left with the courage of his convictions with design. To think Lexus now uses a BMWish dash!
I didn't like his designs at all initially and have warmed up to most. I see his influence everywhere and he did an amazing job making BMWs look different but still be a BMW to most people. Today it seems every company is moving into make everything look the same for the sake of an easy way to create brand identity.
Bangle is missed
in some way, i can see how things are settle down (as in boring) now. lexus and mb has "caught up" to bmw, and they are still trying to find the next best thing. bmw has toned down and now while elegant (subjective comment), you don't see that much of a future trend anymore. so the question becomes "what's next?" and no one seems to have the answer.
back a decade, bangle said it loudly and confidently "this is the future". and he's absolutely right
07-03-12, 12:05 PM
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absolutely agreed. if somehow he made it more of a evolution (and subsequently bmw able to give him more time) rather than a sudden revolution, things could have been a lot different. imagine if he was still at bmw now and evolving the future that mb and lexus are chasing after.
in some way, i can see how things are settle down (as in boring) now. lexus and mb has "caught up" to bmw, and they are still trying to find the next best thing. bmw has toned down and now while elegant (subjective comment), you don't see that much of a future trend anymore. so the question becomes "what's next?" and no one seems to have the answer.
back a decade, bangle said it loudly and confidently "this is the future". and he's absolutely right
in some way, i can see how things are settle down (as in boring) now. lexus and mb has "caught up" to bmw, and they are still trying to find the next best thing. bmw has toned down and now while elegant (subjective comment), you don't see that much of a future trend anymore. so the question becomes "what's next?" and no one seems to have the answer.
back a decade, bangle said it loudly and confidently "this is the future". and he's absolutely right
...now me wants E60 M5
07-04-12, 07:02 AM
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Those who are interested could probably pick up on this book which was written by Chris Bangle himself to explain his ideas and philosophies of car design through a fictional setting.
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