Hyundai plans diesels and fuel-cells following V8 intro
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Hyundai plans diesels and fuel-cells following V8 intro
Hyundai plans diesels and fuel-cells following V8 intro
Posted on Monday 13 August 2007
Researchers at Hyundai and its Kia brand are developing new diesel and hydrogen fuel-cell powertrains that’ll eventually be added to its lineup but the immediate focus remains the introduction of a new V8 platform. The new V8 engine will debut in Hyundai’s upcoming RWD Genesis sedan and could also end up in the Tiburon replacement being developed on the same platform.
There are no plans to introduce RWD platforms or high-performance engines to the Kia range. Instead, the Korean budget brand will get new highly efficient turbo engines and new clean diesels. Hyundai released its first diesel engine in the mid-sized Veracruz crossover that went on sale in Europe and Korea earlier this year. The 3.0L V6 diesel, which develops 240hp, was ruled out for US sales because it didn’t meet emissions standards. As for the fuel-cells, Hyundai has confirmed that a platform and engine have been developed, with limited sales penciled in for 2012.
Hyundai boss Dong Jin Kim revealed that a diesel Veracruz will eventually be sold in the US by 2010 at the latest, and, in an interview with Automotive News, Kia’s US Chief Len Hunt explained that although diesels are preferred over hybrids there are no immediate plans for Kia to start offering the oil-burners or petrol-electric hybrids in the short term.
Posted on Monday 13 August 2007
Researchers at Hyundai and its Kia brand are developing new diesel and hydrogen fuel-cell powertrains that’ll eventually be added to its lineup but the immediate focus remains the introduction of a new V8 platform. The new V8 engine will debut in Hyundai’s upcoming RWD Genesis sedan and could also end up in the Tiburon replacement being developed on the same platform.
There are no plans to introduce RWD platforms or high-performance engines to the Kia range. Instead, the Korean budget brand will get new highly efficient turbo engines and new clean diesels. Hyundai released its first diesel engine in the mid-sized Veracruz crossover that went on sale in Europe and Korea earlier this year. The 3.0L V6 diesel, which develops 240hp, was ruled out for US sales because it didn’t meet emissions standards. As for the fuel-cells, Hyundai has confirmed that a platform and engine have been developed, with limited sales penciled in for 2012.
Hyundai boss Dong Jin Kim revealed that a diesel Veracruz will eventually be sold in the US by 2010 at the latest, and, in an interview with Automotive News, Kia’s US Chief Len Hunt explained that although diesels are preferred over hybrids there are no immediate plans for Kia to start offering the oil-burners or petrol-electric hybrids in the short term.
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This was reported over on HyundaiExchange.com by a very reliable source. If it turns out to be incorrect, blame him:
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In a recent speech to S. Korean business executives, Hyundai's R&D head Hyun-Soon Lee told the audience that 4.6L BH would be tuned to generate 380 hp.
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In a recent speech to S. Korean business executives, Hyundai's R&D head Hyun-Soon Lee told the audience that 4.6L BH would be tuned to generate 380 hp.
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I'm very interested in the Hyundai diesel. It should be in the Santa Fe or Veracruz or even the Entourage by 2010, I hope they will offer a smaller diesel in their sedans as well.
I admire this company for having *****. They remind me of Toyota circa 1987-1997. The efficient turbo gas engines and clean diesels being talked about for Kia could really raise some eyebrows...
I admire this company for having *****. They remind me of Toyota circa 1987-1997. The efficient turbo gas engines and clean diesels being talked about for Kia could really raise some eyebrows...
Last edited by SecPole14; 08-27-07 at 05:34 PM.
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Hyundai released its first diesel engine in the mid-sized Veracruz crossover that went on sale in Europe and Korea earlier this year. The 3.0L V6 diesel, which develops 240hp, was ruled out for US sales because it didn’t meet emissions standards.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This was reported over on HyundaiExchange.com by a very reliable source. If it turns out to be incorrect, blame him:
We should hear about the real specs soon enough, but somehow I doubt it will be 380HP.
Originally Posted by AdrianXT
I admire this company for having *****. They remind me of Toyota circa 1987-1997. The efficient turbo gas engines and clean diesels being talked about for Kia could really raise some eyebrows...
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I'm not talking about specific platforms, like a MR roadster, which was and always will be a very niche product. I'm talking big-picture stuff: Affordable, well-equipped, and possibly quite sporting RWD. Diesels and efficient gas turbos. They're taking chances, like Toyota took back then.
But now Toyota has gotten too conservative in my opinion, hedging too much. Their emphasis on hybrids puts them between a rock and hard place when it comes to offering clean diesel. Toyota, too, has refused to offer a decent RWD car in the past 10 years.
Hyundai is going after the huge weak spots in Toyota's armor: lack of affordable RWD sedans/coupes and lack of diesel engines. I'll be shocked if they're anything less than a smashing success.
Last edited by SecPole14; 08-27-07 at 06:37 PM.
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Officially co-signed.
From the moment the specs and pics were released, I immediately thought that this is the re-incarnation of the Cressida. The Cressida never enjoyed the success it deserved on account of Lexus coming into the picture, but I believe the Genesis will be a different story.
From the moment the specs and pics were released, I immediately thought that this is the re-incarnation of the Cressida. The Cressida never enjoyed the success it deserved on account of Lexus coming into the picture, but I believe the Genesis will be a different story.
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Does the market/consumers in North America REALLY want a RWD near-luxury Hyundai sedan? Personally I doubt it but we'll see.
I still stand by the idea that Hyundai is overhyped and has been given too much credit. I would hardly call the last 2 or so years for Hyundai a "smashing success". No matter how you look at it, it's pretty hard to call it a success. 2006 US sales for Hyundai were just barely better than 2005 sales. And so far for 2007, Hyundai US sales are actually down compared to 2006, and this is despite the fact over the past 2 years a MAJOR part of Hyundai's lineup has been redesigned or saw the addition of new models. The past two years were a product peak for Hyundai in the US and yet sales in the US have been flat at best. Even worldwide, sales have seen only a very small increase over the past two years. Excuse me if I don't share the same enthusiasm and hype for Hyundai as some others do. How they've improved over the past few years really is great, but they're getting hype and credit for more than what they've accomplished.
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Corrected that for you. Toyota offers affordable RWD cars and plenty of diesels overseas. Also I would hardly call it "huge weak spots" as demand for RWD cars and diesels for consumer vehicles in North America is quite low. Diesels are in high demand for commercial vehicles, and Toyota's Hino division supplies diesel powered trucks for North America. I think it's less about Toyota being conservative and more about giving the market and consumers what they want.
Does the market/consumers in North America REALLY want a RWD near-luxury Hyundai sedan? Personally I doubt it but we'll see.
I still stand by the idea that Hyundai is overhyped and has been given too much credit. I would hardly call the last 2 or so years for Hyundai a "smashing success". No matter how you look at it, it's pretty hard to call it a success. 2006 US sales for Hyundai were just barely better than 2005 sales. And so far for 2007, Hyundai US sales are actually down compared to 2006, and this is despite the fact over the past 2 years a MAJOR part of Hyundai's lineup has been redesigned or saw the addition of new models. The past two years were a product peak for Hyundai in the US and yet sales in the US have been flat at best. Even worldwide, sales have seen only a very small increase over the past two years. Excuse me if I don't share the same enthusiasm and hype for Hyundai as some others do. How they've improved over the past few years really is great, but they're getting hype and credit for more than what they've accomplished.
Does the market/consumers in North America REALLY want a RWD near-luxury Hyundai sedan? Personally I doubt it but we'll see.
I still stand by the idea that Hyundai is overhyped and has been given too much credit. I would hardly call the last 2 or so years for Hyundai a "smashing success". No matter how you look at it, it's pretty hard to call it a success. 2006 US sales for Hyundai were just barely better than 2005 sales. And so far for 2007, Hyundai US sales are actually down compared to 2006, and this is despite the fact over the past 2 years a MAJOR part of Hyundai's lineup has been redesigned or saw the addition of new models. The past two years were a product peak for Hyundai in the US and yet sales in the US have been flat at best. Even worldwide, sales have seen only a very small increase over the past two years. Excuse me if I don't share the same enthusiasm and hype for Hyundai as some others do. How they've improved over the past few years really is great, but they're getting hype and credit for more than what they've accomplished.
Last edited by SecPole14; 08-27-07 at 07:20 PM.
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Just trying to be fair and objective . It's a bit misleading to say Toyota does not offer affordable RWD cars or diesel engines without mentioning this only applies to North America.
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Officially co-signed.
From the moment the specs and pics were released, I immediately thought that this is the re-incarnation of the Cressida. The Cressida never enjoyed the success it deserved on account of Lexus coming into the picture, but I believe the Genesis will be a different story.
From the moment the specs and pics were released, I immediately thought that this is the re-incarnation of the Cressida. The Cressida never enjoyed the success it deserved on account of Lexus coming into the picture, but I believe the Genesis will be a different story.
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Can you buy Hyundai diesel in USA? Where?
I sampled their 4cly diesel in Santa Fe and it was pretty nice, modern unit. It still spends a bit too much fuel in real-time use, but overall nice engines.