Range Rover Sport ---
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Pros: Quick (when SC), great interior, affordable (compared to RR), improved reliability (though still horrific), very classy. Very capable offroad (not that any of it's owners utilize this).
Cons: When compared to the regular RR ($20k more), the interior doesn't compare and in the next few years (because of production numbers), it's going to be a lot more common. Performance lacks when compared to Cayenne, build quality lacks when compared to X5, RX and FX (Distant competitors), and even when compared to the ML.
Range Rovers are great cars with a lot of flaws. However, they have one of the highest rates in the industry of keeping customers. Everyone knows that Land Rover's build quality is crap but Land Rover has managed to make a good enough product that people can overlook that. In typical British style, it exudes class and style and the interior is made of very high quality woods and leather in a design that works excellently.
I'm more of a fan of the regular Range Rover HSE/SC though to be honest. Something about that timeless design does it for me. (But then again I have a bit of a thing for Classic Range Rovers and Defenders )
Chris
Cons: When compared to the regular RR ($20k more), the interior doesn't compare and in the next few years (because of production numbers), it's going to be a lot more common. Performance lacks when compared to Cayenne, build quality lacks when compared to X5, RX and FX (Distant competitors), and even when compared to the ML.
Range Rovers are great cars with a lot of flaws. However, they have one of the highest rates in the industry of keeping customers. Everyone knows that Land Rover's build quality is crap but Land Rover has managed to make a good enough product that people can overlook that. In typical British style, it exudes class and style and the interior is made of very high quality woods and leather in a design that works excellently.
I'm more of a fan of the regular Range Rover HSE/SC though to be honest. Something about that timeless design does it for me. (But then again I have a bit of a thing for Classic Range Rovers and Defenders )
Chris
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My uncle has one...every now and then, he'll ask to use my Tacoma to pull his boat. In return, he lends me the Range....black with black 22 inch DaVinci's on it....needless to say, it's pretty quick. The transmission shifts pretty smoothly too. At over 26k miles, no major flaws to report. He had to do front brakes at 25k miles though. Those Brembo pads are soft.
I do have a few gripes though. For an SUV that costs 80-90 G's, it doesn't even have one-touch window operation. Kind of annoying for you to have to hold the button down. Second, it guzzles gas big time. I think I was getting like 12-13 mpg. I guess it doesn't help that it has a supercharged V8 that begs to be pushed
I do have a few gripes though. For an SUV that costs 80-90 G's, it doesn't even have one-touch window operation. Kind of annoying for you to have to hold the button down. Second, it guzzles gas big time. I think I was getting like 12-13 mpg. I guess it doesn't help that it has a supercharged V8 that begs to be pushed
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^^lol...
for the money, I could buy a cheap SUV and fix it up to perform better on and offroad. It wouldn't be as pretty, it wouldn't have the name or all the accoutriments, but it would perform.
In fact, I plan to. I'm looking around for a 2000 Jeep Cherokee to purchase, then the engine and tranny go bye-bye for a stroked I-6 and a supercharger and a custom tranny to handle the torque and HP. Numbers were estimated at mid 400HP/Tq when I last did my calculations (over a year ago) and so I've found some high-clearance 1-tons axles too, that will accept selectable lockers. what else...well its designed to be an expeditionary vehicle, so it won't get a lot of lift but there will be bodywork done to open up the fenderwells. It'll have both CB and HAM radios, winch bumper, etc...all the armor stuff you would expect in a heavy offroad vehicle.
I estimated the price for this build at jsut over 50K last year. Tell me agian why I should pay so much for something that can't perform to my own demands?
for the money, I could buy a cheap SUV and fix it up to perform better on and offroad. It wouldn't be as pretty, it wouldn't have the name or all the accoutriments, but it would perform.
In fact, I plan to. I'm looking around for a 2000 Jeep Cherokee to purchase, then the engine and tranny go bye-bye for a stroked I-6 and a supercharger and a custom tranny to handle the torque and HP. Numbers were estimated at mid 400HP/Tq when I last did my calculations (over a year ago) and so I've found some high-clearance 1-tons axles too, that will accept selectable lockers. what else...well its designed to be an expeditionary vehicle, so it won't get a lot of lift but there will be bodywork done to open up the fenderwells. It'll have both CB and HAM radios, winch bumper, etc...all the armor stuff you would expect in a heavy offroad vehicle.
I estimated the price for this build at jsut over 50K last year. Tell me agian why I should pay so much for something that can't perform to my own demands?
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I do have a few gripes though. For an SUV that costs 80-90 G's, it doesn't even have one-touch window operation. Kind of annoying for you to have to hold the button down. Second, it guzzles gas big time. I think I was getting like 12-13 mpg. I guess it doesn't help that it has a supercharged V8 that begs to be pushed
Chris
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A friend of mine had the RR HSE and he had so many issues he gave it back after about four months. Although beautiful his sad experience has totally turned me off from them.
If you have to have one totally lease it.
If you have to have one totally lease it.
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IF I went in this direction it would definitely be a lease...
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This is largely due to the fact that, once out of warranty, you'll spend another $5k/year trying to keep the thing running...ask how I know