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Old 08-31-07, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I have an article in one of my Bimmer mags about a E28 5 Series. I guess it was around 40k new loaded.

The guy has dumped 40k into it to keep it running and looking new.
Yeah...for 40K he probably won't get a new 5-series, but he could have had his choice of several different new 3-series.
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Old 08-31-07, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 92 SC400
This is interesting but as Bit said, to elude to Bit's comment, how many people really want to have a car long enough to rack up 200k on it? I know there are some, but come on, that is pretty basic logic - keep you car twice as long as you would normally and you'll save money because you didnt buy a new one...
For those of you that make plenty of disposable income, it's easy to always have a newer car. You have no worries. Other's, like myself, couldn't even get a car loan right now if I wanted.

It comes down to buying the right car in the first place to have that desire to keep a car that long. If you buy American, you'll be sick of your car within a year or two. Buy a Toyota or Honda and you may very well be happy racking up 200K.

Buying a car with a timeless design will greatly help with long term ownership.
I have an SC400 and it's design will always look good. That's why I don't mind having a 15 year old car. A 15 year old Ford or Chevy? No way in hell!
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Old 08-31-07, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
There is a 7 series with over 300k in a past issue of BMW magazine (which I have) that is still going strong. CR is FOS as always.
There are always exceptions. Generally, 7-series are plagued with problems and extremely high repair costs.

And I wouldn't call CR FOS. They are the single best source for auto reliablity records.
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Old 08-31-07, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
That's not for most of us people in CL, who is going to keep a car for 15 yrs and 200K, seriously...
Well, there are actually quite a bit of people on CL in the "200K Club" with their Lexus'. There have been numerous high mileage threads to show it.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I have an article in one of my Bimmer mags about a E28 5 Series. I guess it was around 40k new loaded.

The guy has dumped 40k into it to keep it running and looking new.
Which mag was this ? Just curious and would like to read the article. The magazine I mentioned was BMW Magazine which BMW owners recieve quarterly. The 7 series in that Magazine had no major repair issues, like *cough* a starter, condenser, which can cost thousands in labor and parts. This vehicle was still going strong with over 300k on the clock.
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OK, one more post...

Let's figure average new car purchase (now appoximately $25K).

+ 5% sales tax
+ $350 for title, registration, ect.

$26,625 financed at a typical 60 mo.

= $537.31/mo

= $32,238.60 in total payments!!

So your "$25K" car costs $32K+ before all other costs.

And new car's insurence is a good amount higher too...

Just something to think about (most people don't)
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
There's a place for people who try to keep their cars running forever.

Cuba.
Good one. As long as it's a Toyota or Honda and one keeps up with the maintenance their cars will last them forever. Try doing that with a Chevy or Ford...
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Except for one "fun car" that I bought cheap in the mid-1980s and almost never drove, I've had only three cars in the past 28 years - a Mercedes sedan bought new in 1979, an LS400 bought new in 1990 and a 2000 LS400 bought used in 2003.

I saved up and paid cash for two of the three cars and I used a short term loan on the other one until I could free up cash. I've saved a huge amount of money by not paying interest on car loans and I invested the money I saved in ways that provided an average annual rate of return substantially exceeding the 5% mentioned in the Comsumer Reports article.

It's not difficult to keep cars a long time if you buy cars that you really like
and if you maintain them properly. It certainly wasn't a stuggle to drive the 90 LS for almost 14 years.

It really is kind of funny when I think about it. The reason I can afford to pay cash for cars is that I pay cash for cars.
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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Which mag was this ? Just curious and would like to read the article. The magazine I mentioned was BMW Magazine which BMW owners recieve quarterly. The 7 series in that Magazine had no major repair issues, like *cough* a starter, condenser, which can cost thousands in labor and parts. This vehicle was still going strong with over 300k on the clock.
Bimmer mag. No 48. Feb 2005 issue.
pg 60-65
And I was wrong, it was worse.
The 533i was $28,985 NEW in 1983.
In over a decade of ownership, the man has spent $54,309.22 to keep the car going and get it back in top condition.

The car doesn't have any mods like wheels, a bbk, a kit etc.
 
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wtf?

54000$ not including gas??

that's a gross amount of repairs.
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Originally Posted by JLSC4
And I wouldn't call CR FOS. They are the single best source for auto reliablity records.
I disagree. They don't publish their survey methods and they're relying on data from consumers, not, for example, warranty claims and other harder data.

Is it SOMEWHAT useful? Yes, it provide a general view in the REAR MIRROR of how cars have held up in the past, but that's about it. Yes, it shows Toyotas have in general been far more reliable than Chryslers, but I didn't need CR to tell me this.

Their reviews are extremely narrowly focused (reliability, safety, fuel economy) - they love boring safe appliance like transportation which Toyota has done so well.

Back to the thread though - well maintained cars last a long time and are cheaper in the long run than buying newer cars every couple of years. This is news?
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