Toyota FT-HS Hybrid 0-60mph 4.0 sec
08-28-09, 10:16 AM
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^The Toyota Supra HV-R hybrid race car has a 6-speed manual (it uses capacitors instead of batteries though). Hopefully Toyota will make the HV-R drivetrain available to their sports car models.
08-28-09, 06:19 PM
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I think that they will offer a gas powered variant for a number of reasons:
1) Retail price (lower on non-hybrid)
2) True performance enthusiasts won't be too enthusiased about a hybrid-only sports car
3) Because of points 1 and 2, they will probably sell more gas powered versions than hybrid ones, making it a logical choice considering economies of scale in manufacturing parts for the car.
Plus a few other reasons...
1) Retail price (lower on non-hybrid)
2) True performance enthusiasts won't be too enthusiased about a hybrid-only sports car
3) Because of points 1 and 2, they will probably sell more gas powered versions than hybrid ones, making it a logical choice considering economies of scale in manufacturing parts for the car.
Plus a few other reasons...
SO many cool things can be done with the FT-HS. C'mon Toyoda, lets see what you got.
08-28-09, 07:20 PM
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I would keep it at an even 303 HP as not to bastardize sales from the hybrid model. I.e. I wonder to people buy the 230 Hp Fusion with the 268 HP not too far off in cost?
08-29-09, 01:02 PM
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"a sports car that's eco-friendly and fun to drive; a sports car as fast as a Ferrari, yet as fuel-efficient as a four-cylinder compact."
ferrari performance, 4 cylinder fuel efficiency, exotic styling, and all for $30,000
riiiiiiiggghht
There's absolutely no way we're going to see a car with ALL 4 of those qualities together.
Japanese engineering is brilliant. Let's give them the first 3 for a second (0 to 60 in 4 sec, mind boggling fuel efficiency, exotic styling)....there's no way they'll sell it for just $30,000
What the hell is the point of the IS-Fs, the C63 AMGs, the M3s which are slower 0 to 60 than this $30k exotically styled 4 cylinder-like fuel efficient hybrid?
Yeah, 0 to 60 isn't everything in a sports car, but it's certainly among the most relevant.
It's less involved making an 8 second (0 to 60 car) go 0 to 60 in 7.
It takes a LOT to make a car go even tenths of a second faster once we're in sub 5.5 range or so.
The entire concept seems very much like what Tesla has done with its tesla roadster. Although they have an ALL electric powertrain, it does 0 to 60 in 3.7, it has exotic/aggressive styling, it's EXTREMELY "fuel efficient" (equivalent if you look at cost and translate into hypothetical gas mileage)...but it sure as hell isn't just $30,000
Tesla roadster STARTS a little above $110,000 with no options if i recall correctly.
Imagine if the tesla roadster was $30,000.
ferrari performance, 4 cylinder fuel efficiency, exotic styling, and all for $30,000
riiiiiiiggghht
There's absolutely no way we're going to see a car with ALL 4 of those qualities together.
Japanese engineering is brilliant. Let's give them the first 3 for a second (0 to 60 in 4 sec, mind boggling fuel efficiency, exotic styling)....there's no way they'll sell it for just $30,000
What the hell is the point of the IS-Fs, the C63 AMGs, the M3s which are slower 0 to 60 than this $30k exotically styled 4 cylinder-like fuel efficient hybrid?
Yeah, 0 to 60 isn't everything in a sports car, but it's certainly among the most relevant.
It's less involved making an 8 second (0 to 60 car) go 0 to 60 in 7.
It takes a LOT to make a car go even tenths of a second faster once we're in sub 5.5 range or so.
The entire concept seems very much like what Tesla has done with its tesla roadster. Although they have an ALL electric powertrain, it does 0 to 60 in 3.7, it has exotic/aggressive styling, it's EXTREMELY "fuel efficient" (equivalent if you look at cost and translate into hypothetical gas mileage)...but it sure as hell isn't just $30,000
Tesla roadster STARTS a little above $110,000 with no options if i recall correctly.
Imagine if the tesla roadster was $30,000.
Also technologies continues to get better and time does not stand still. Cars we thought were fast 10 years ago are completely slow to their new generations.
This is a huge HALO car for Toyota and they are gambling a lot on it.
08-29-09, 04:10 PM
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08-29-09, 05:09 PM
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capacitors on it are not what you typically find in your TV's, computers and such
these are high capacity capacitors that hold probably 10Ah each
08-29-09, 06:49 PM
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Like Mike said, this can be a HUGE halo car for the Toyota brand, and I think amazing things can be done with it.
08-30-09, 01:22 PM
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