ES350 vs. G35
#1
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ES350 vs. G35
ES - FWD
G35 - RWD or AWD
ES interior - one flavor (style)
G35 - aluminum trim or wood trim
ES tranny - 6 speed AT
G35 - 5 speed AT or 6 speed MT (yay!)
Brakes:
ES - 11.6/11.0 discs
G35 - 12.6/12.1 or 13/13!
Nav/Audio:
ES - DVD/CD
G35 - hard drive system - add your own music
Looks? G35 to me wins hands down in and out
Price - G35 starts $2270 less
ES - starts at 33720
G35 - starts at 31450
After reviewing the specs and options on these two vehicles, why would ANYONE buy an ES350?
G35 - RWD or AWD
ES interior - one flavor (style)
G35 - aluminum trim or wood trim
ES tranny - 6 speed AT
G35 - 5 speed AT or 6 speed MT (yay!)
Brakes:
ES - 11.6/11.0 discs
G35 - 12.6/12.1 or 13/13!
Nav/Audio:
ES - DVD/CD
G35 - hard drive system - add your own music
Looks? G35 to me wins hands down in and out
Price - G35 starts $2270 less
ES - starts at 33720
G35 - starts at 31450
After reviewing the specs and options on these two vehicles, why would ANYONE buy an ES350?
#3
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The new ES has actually been firmed up over the previous ES330 with lower-profile 55-series tires vs. the former 60's and a new, firmer suspension......so much so that, IMO, the car has lost some of its character. It was never meant to be a sports sedan....and still isn't, by BMW or Audi standards, but the increase in firmness is noticeable. The interior, IMO, has also been cheapened, with a less-durable plastickiness, a loss of much of the former car's superb wood trim, and noticeable dash creaks and rattles. The creak-and-rattle problem is legion in the Internet ES chat forums. Short of the original ES250, it is probably the most disappointing new vehicle that Lexus has ever produced.
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ES - FWD
G35 - RWD or AWD
ES interior - one flavor (style)
G35 - aluminum trim or wood trim
ES tranny - 6 speed AT
G35 - 5 speed AT or 6 speed MT (yay!)
Brakes:
ES - 11.6/11.0 discs
G35 - 12.6/12.1 or 13/13!
Nav/Audio:
ES - DVD/CD
G35 - hard drive system - add your own music
Looks? G35 to me wins hands down in and out
Price - G35 starts $2270 less
ES - starts at 33720
G35 - starts at 31450
After reviewing the specs and options on these two vehicles, why would ANYONE buy an ES350?
G35 - RWD or AWD
ES interior - one flavor (style)
G35 - aluminum trim or wood trim
ES tranny - 6 speed AT
G35 - 5 speed AT or 6 speed MT (yay!)
Brakes:
ES - 11.6/11.0 discs
G35 - 12.6/12.1 or 13/13!
Nav/Audio:
ES - DVD/CD
G35 - hard drive system - add your own music
Looks? G35 to me wins hands down in and out
Price - G35 starts $2270 less
ES - starts at 33720
G35 - starts at 31450
After reviewing the specs and options on these two vehicles, why would ANYONE buy an ES350?
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Just wondering, what do you mean by 'more luxury'?
About room - the ES is longer and wider, but the G has a lot longer wheelbase (which is one of the things that makes it better looking IMO), and more front legroom and more headroom, but the ES has a bigger trunk and more shoulder room (due to width), so it's mixed.
About room - the ES is longer and wider, but the G has a lot longer wheelbase (which is one of the things that makes it better looking IMO), and more front legroom and more headroom, but the ES has a bigger trunk and more shoulder room (due to width), so it's mixed.
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I prefer the G35 sedan hands down, big improvement over the previous inside & out, I actually think it's better looking than the G37 coupe overall.
I do still have some reservations on how well it's put together overall compared to the ES though based on my own experience with the G35, the build quality is so-so at best (no I am not just talking about the materials used), & Lexus fit & finish is still better, particular the paint looks noticeably better.
I have driven the ES350 a couple times as a loaner, it's still a nice, comfortable & relaxing car to ride in, & I didn't notice any rattles at all, but I agree the interior materials is a step back from the previous ES, I am not complaining about less wood trim though (I think that's a matter of design), but the dash/door trim material looks to be of lower grade than the previous, it's the same as those use in the IS250/350.
Still, I can see why some people would prefer a ES350 over a G35 sedan, it rides softer & is more quiet, it just won't be my choice between the two.
I do still have some reservations on how well it's put together overall compared to the ES though based on my own experience with the G35, the build quality is so-so at best (no I am not just talking about the materials used), & Lexus fit & finish is still better, particular the paint looks noticeably better.
I have driven the ES350 a couple times as a loaner, it's still a nice, comfortable & relaxing car to ride in, & I didn't notice any rattles at all, but I agree the interior materials is a step back from the previous ES, I am not complaining about less wood trim though (I think that's a matter of design), but the dash/door trim material looks to be of lower grade than the previous, it's the same as those use in the IS250/350.
Still, I can see why some people would prefer a ES350 over a G35 sedan, it rides softer & is more quiet, it just won't be my choice between the two.
#15
this is like comparing apples and oranges. one is a proper luxury car and the other is a jumped up nissan altima with rwd. i've driven a g35. i couldn't stand that drowning exhaust and it doesn't feel that fast. would i pick the es350 over the g35? yes, if i had another car and that car was a bmw. if not, i'd go get a bmw.