Touch Screen Nav Systems And German Cars
09-28-07, 02:04 PM
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I-drive is safer??? 
I have been using I-drive on our E70 X5 and I'll tell you. It's a disaster.
I can list 1000 reasons why I-drive can turn into I-Crash.
It's the most poorly designed navigation interface I've ever seen. Even 300$ pocket navigation has way better logical interface than I-drive.
I have been using I-drive on our E70 X5 and I'll tell you. It's a disaster.
I can list 1000 reasons why I-drive can turn into I-Crash.
It's the most poorly designed navigation interface I've ever seen. Even 300$ pocket navigation has way better logical interface than I-drive.
But anyway this whole thread is quite funny as folks keep comparing Nav and iDrive. iDrive has Nav but it is only one small part.
Just goes to show how little people actually understand the technology in cars. They are really good at whining about something they don't own to begin with.
They must be right since BMW sales are so low. 
From my viewpoint, there are two types that complain about Nav systems, the trade rag editors, and people who have nothing better to do.
09-28-07, 02:15 PM
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I doubt you own an X5. The new model has the latest generation features and I have heard nothing but positive comments.
But anyway this whole thread is quite funny as folks keep comparing Nav and iDrive. iDrive has Nav but it is only one small part.
Just goes to show how little people actually understand the technology in cars. They are really good at whining about something they don't own to begin with. They must be right since BMW sales are so low.
From my viewpoint, there are two types that complain about Nav systems, the trade rag editors, and people who have nothing better to do.
But anyway this whole thread is quite funny as folks keep comparing Nav and iDrive. iDrive has Nav but it is only one small part.
Just goes to show how little people actually understand the technology in cars. They are really good at whining about something they don't own to begin with.
They must be right since BMW sales are so low. From my viewpoint, there are two types that complain about Nav systems, the trade rag editors, and people who have nothing better to do.
Most "navigation systems" still offer quite a bit of functionality outside of just navigation. Not just BMW's. Though BMW does seem to offer more functionality and, more importantly (especially to those who do not like it), require more dependency on the system (due to a lack of physical controls/buttons outside of the nav screen) to perform quite a few normal tasks.
So if it's no longer a nav system (due to its multi functional aspect) what can we call it that isn't brand-specific? I mean I know there's iDrive a MMI and all that but what's a non brand specific term that encompasses them all other than "navigation system"?
09-28-07, 03:01 PM
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I doubt you own an X5. The new model has the latest generation features and I have heard nothing but positive comments.
But anyway this whole thread is quite funny as folks keep comparing Nav and iDrive. iDrive has Nav but it is only one small part.
Just goes to show how little people actually understand the technology in cars. They are really good at whining about something they don't own to begin with. They must be right since BMW sales are so low.
From my viewpoint, there are two types that complain about Nav systems, the trade rag editors, and people who have nothing better to do.
But anyway this whole thread is quite funny as folks keep comparing Nav and iDrive. iDrive has Nav but it is only one small part.
Just goes to show how little people actually understand the technology in cars. They are really good at whining about something they don't own to begin with.
They must be right since BMW sales are so low. From my viewpoint, there are two types that complain about Nav systems, the trade rag editors, and people who have nothing better to do.
Owners whine about the system just as much as non-owners. Every mag review the past 5+ years whines about the system. People put up with things and some people like it.
09-28-07, 03:06 PM
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But anyway this whole thread is quite funny as folks keep comparing Nav and iDrive. iDrive has Nav but it is only one small part.
Just goes to show how little people actually understand the technology in cars. They are really good at whining about something they don't own to begin with. They must be right since BMW sales are so low.
Just goes to show how little people actually understand the technology in cars. They are really good at whining about something they don't own to begin with.
They must be right since BMW sales are so low. So in order for any criticism to have credibility, they need to own a BMW with iDrive?
Why would someone have to own something they don't like? I have plenty of experience with my GF's 335 and my opinions are based on the numerous times I've driven the car and used iDrive. Are you also incorrectly assuming that all BMW car sales reflect units with iDrive?
09-28-07, 04:22 PM
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So it is true the majority of entry level models do not have Nav. The same is true for Toyotas, Nissans, etc.
09-28-07, 04:48 PM
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Since most of BMW sales (and everyone else) are entry level models, it is still safe to say the majority of BMWs and cars sold do not have NAV.
09-28-07, 05:02 PM
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If its standard on the 5, I would be surprised. I thought it was standard with NAV? What about the 635 in Europe or all the other models in Europe? Or are you talking about the USA?
Since most of BMW sales (and everyone else) are entry level models, it is still safe to say the majority of BMWs and cars sold do not have NAV.
Since most of BMW sales (and everyone else) are entry level models, it is still safe to say the majority of BMWs and cars sold do not have NAV.
iDrive+Nav is standard on the 6 and 7, optional on everything else. In the U.S. of course. Over seas, everything is an option.
You can tell the difference by looking at the screen. The nav screens are 8-9 inches wide. The non nav screens are about 6 inches wide.
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09-29-07, 10:25 PM
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I was drving around town today in the MB and thought about this thread...I drove my Lexus earlier in the week so I since my memory is still I try to use to command today and see which one I like more.. I can say that for some function the command is less distracted to use compare touch screen.. for example I got hungry and I need to find a resturant on command I can do it when i'm driving and be done 5 second..
and if I was driving my Lexus I would need to park the car and look at the screen to find to resturant..
I also use the command and entered few address when I was driving on freeway it was pretty easy... I can enter the address fast in the lexus too but need to exit and park the car to use it..
And one cool thing I like about MB command is that you can adjust angle of Nav screen.. to me that helps a lot..
overall I like the MB command a lot I still don't understand why so many other out there have problems with it.. it is so damn easy to use..
after using both touch screen in Lexus and command in MB the same week I still prefer command cause I can drive it and use it at the same time and 1 **** does everything
and if I was driving my Lexus I would need to park the car and look at the screen to find to resturant..
I also use the command and entered few address when I was driving on freeway it was pretty easy... I can enter the address fast in the lexus too but need to exit and park the car to use it..
And one cool thing I like about MB command is that you can adjust angle of Nav screen.. to me that helps a lot..
overall I like the MB command a lot I still don't understand why so many other out there have problems with it.. it is so damn easy to use..
after using both touch screen in Lexus and command in MB the same week I still prefer command cause I can drive it and use it at the same time and 1 **** does everything
09-30-07, 06:58 AM
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09-30-07, 07:32 PM
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I was drving around town today in the MB and thought about this thread...I drove my Lexus earlier in the week so I since my memory is still I try to use to command today and see which one I like more.. I can say that for some function the command is less distracted to use compare touch screen.. for example I got hungry and I need to find a resturant on command I can do it when i'm driving and be done 5 second..
and if I was driving my Lexus I would need to park the car and look at the screen to find to resturant..
I also use the command and entered few address when I was driving on freeway it was pretty easy... I can enter the address fast in the lexus too but need to exit and park the car to use it..
And one cool thing I like about MB command is that you can adjust angle of Nav screen.. to me that helps a lot..
overall I like the MB command a lot I still don't understand why so many other out there have problems with it.. it is so damn easy to use..
after using both touch screen in Lexus and command in MB the same week I still prefer command cause I can drive it and use it at the same time and 1 **** does everything
and if I was driving my Lexus I would need to park the car and look at the screen to find to resturant..
I also use the command and entered few address when I was driving on freeway it was pretty easy... I can enter the address fast in the lexus too but need to exit and park the car to use it..
And one cool thing I like about MB command is that you can adjust angle of Nav screen.. to me that helps a lot..
overall I like the MB command a lot I still don't understand why so many other out there have problems with it.. it is so damn easy to use..
after using both touch screen in Lexus and command in MB the same week I still prefer command cause I can drive it and use it at the same time and 1 **** does everything
10-01-07, 05:56 PM
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