Toyota/Subaru/Scion Lightweight Sports Car: Toyota GT86, Subaru BRZ, Scion FRS!
#1651
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what personal attacks?
This is lightweight car with 200hp and great handling.
You dont care about that, you preffer turbo'd car thats 700lbs heavier.
So this car is not for you.
What else needs to be said really?
You are dissapointed with weight of FRS, but you prefer Genesis Coupe that is 600-700lbs heavier.
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As to the Cali and CARB, if mid 6s 0-60 is not good enough for you, then you "can" wait to see if there is higher powered factory version or even TRD turbo thats CARB legal (their S/C are).
This is lightweight car with 200hp and great handling.
You dont care about that, you preffer turbo'd car thats 700lbs heavier.
So this car is not for you.
What else needs to be said really?
You are dissapointed with weight of FRS, but you prefer Genesis Coupe that is 600-700lbs heavier.
....
As to the Cali and CARB, if mid 6s 0-60 is not good enough for you, then you "can" wait to see if there is higher powered factory version or even TRD turbo thats CARB legal (their S/C are).
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Subaru BRZ Spied On California Freeway
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An alert reader spotted a lightly disguised Subaru BRZ on what appears to be a California freeway. Clad in only a tiny bit of camo, the spy photos don’t reveal much more than we’ve already seen, but are a neat look at the hotly anticipated Subaru sports car.
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#1653
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what personal attacks?
This is lightweight car with 200hp and great handling.
You dont care about that, you preffer turbo'd car thats 700lbs heavier.
So this car is not for you.
What else needs to be said really?
You are dissapointed with weight of FRS, but you prefer Genesis Coupe that is 600-700lbs heavier.
....
As to the Cali and CARB, if mid 6s 0-60 is not good enough for you, then you "can" wait to see if there is higher powered factory version or even TRD turbo thats CARB legal (their S/C are).
This is lightweight car with 200hp and great handling.
You dont care about that, you preffer turbo'd car thats 700lbs heavier.
So this car is not for you.
What else needs to be said really?
You are dissapointed with weight of FRS, but you prefer Genesis Coupe that is 600-700lbs heavier.
....
As to the Cali and CARB, if mid 6s 0-60 is not good enough for you, then you "can" wait to see if there is higher powered factory version or even TRD turbo thats CARB legal (their S/C are).
Btw - are you affiliated or in any way paid / sponsored by Toyota directly or indirectly?
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Last edited by ydooby; 11-29-11 at 03:04 PM.
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#1656
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BTW it isn't I that is into practicality, but it is simply the purpose of this car, a fun car for the common people.
Last edited by ydooby; 11-29-11 at 03:14 PM.
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I mean this car is 200lbs lighter than S2000, a two seater.
Almost 400 lbs lighter than RX8.
Due to weight and decent torque compared to both, it is not going to be particularly slower than either of them.
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lol.
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The FRS/BRZ is not a sports car, but a sporty light weight car going to compete against the Miata
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You do realize they made a WRX sedan and there was the 2+2 RX8.. That car must of gotten you more excited than ********..lol
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you criticism is that you think it is overweight, and then in the same paragraph you like Genesis Coupe that is 700lbs heavier in turbo form.
I mean this car is 200lbs lighter than S2000, a two seater.
Almost 400 lbs lighter than RX8.
Due to weight and decent torque compared to both, it is not going to be particularly slower than either of them.
I mean this car is 200lbs lighter than S2000, a two seater.
Almost 400 lbs lighter than RX8.
Due to weight and decent torque compared to both, it is not going to be particularly slower than either of them.
The Genisis was mentioned because if I could get the weight I wanted, it would provide the power levels and easy mod ability with a stock FI setup.
Screw the Rx8... Won't touch a wankel with a 5 ft pole!
I assume you do work for or are affiliated with Toyco or it's dealers then, since you avoided the question?
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Fwiw - the FR-S as well as all the other cars I mentioned are sports cars (well the ITR is a bit on the fence). To what degree is the question....
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The RX8 is 400lbs heavier than the 86 and the WRX sedan...seriously? Might as well throw some sporty utes like the EX35 into the mix. What's your point really?
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The 86 is a good blend of fun, sexiness, lightweight, practicality and affordability. If you don't find the "blend" suit you, just get/wait for something else. It's utterly pointless to argue that the RX8 or the WRX is superior just because it has a different blend of these attributes.
Last edited by ydooby; 11-29-11 at 03:29 PM.
#1665
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Again, different cars serve different purposes, so what makes you think the 86 has to cater to your needs?
The RX8 is 400lbs heavier than the 86 and the WRX sedan...seriously? Might as well throw some sporty utes like the EX35 into the mix. What's your point really?![Egads!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/pat.gif)
The 86 is a good blend of fun, sexiness, lightweight, practicality and affordability. If you don't find the "blend" suit you, just get/wait for something else. It's utterly pointless to argue that the RX8 or the WRX is superior just because it has a different blend of these attributes.
The RX8 is 400lbs heavier than the 86 and the WRX sedan...seriously? Might as well throw some sporty utes like the EX35 into the mix. What's your point really?
![Egads!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/pat.gif)
The 86 is a good blend of fun, sexiness, lightweight, practicality and affordability. If you don't find the "blend" suit you, just get/wait for something else. It's utterly pointless to argue that the RX8 or the WRX is superior just because it has a different blend of these attributes.