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Old 01-30-12, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike@Vossen
So who's getting one?
i am nagging my significant other to trade in her tC for one
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Old 01-30-12, 06:24 PM
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The price isn't yet finalised due to the yen exchange rate, but Toyota is homing in on £25,000 as the target. Rivals are cited as the Scirocco and Peugeot RCZ, but in truth neither can hold a candle to the GT 86 on the road. Enjoy driving? Then this contest boils down to a battle between this and the Subaru - and you'll make your choice on grounds of badge, dealer location, price and visual tweakery. Me? I'd have the Subaru - the brand is that wee bit cooler - but honestly, this goes down as the best Toyota I've ever driven, and one of the best driving sports cars of the last decade. It's here in June. You know what to do.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/toyota/gt-86/road-test/driven
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Old 01-30-12, 06:30 PM
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We'd have one. Which is about as big a compliment as we can give the GT 86. It embodies everything that's right about sporting cars. Low weight, rear-drive, low centre of gravity, a manual transmission, ample performance, sensible levels of grip and steering that's rich in information. We've been excited about this car for a while now, and we're even more so after driving it. Fantastic.
http://www.completecar.ie/testdrives...GT_86/490/1534

The GT 86 particularly fascinated by his ride. This car has two steering wheels: one is circular, the other is operated with the right foot.
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/toyot...t-2841271.html
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Old 01-30-12, 11:53 PM
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great reviews - looks like an instant classic and winner!
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Old 01-31-12, 06:26 AM
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so much high praise for the N/A model...imagine when they start selling a turbo model, gonna be all smiles!
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Originally Posted by baddis es
so much high praise for the N/A model...imagine when they start selling a turbo model, gonna be all smiles!
is there announced plans for one? i could see subie doing it, but not toyota/scion.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
is there announced plans for one? i could see subie doing it, but not toyota/scion.
nope... if any of them do it, both will do it... Toyota will probably sell a LOT more units worldwide anyway. Subaru's network outside of US and Japan is very small.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
is there announced plans for one? i could see subie doing it, but not toyota/scion.
I don't think Scion would do it.

I think Subaru can get away with a $35k+ turbo BRZ.

I don't think Scion could get away with such a car at that price point.
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
I don't think Scion would do it.

I think Subaru can get away with a $35k+ turbo BRZ.

I don't think Scion could get away with such a car at that price point.
why not? this is car that builds audience, not brand shoppers. Just like Nissan can sell Skyline.

Once again, worldwide, Subaru sales will be significantly lower than Toyota's. In Europe they will probably be 10x smaller.
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thanks. yeah, didn't think it was likely.

is limited slip diff avail.? besides minor looks details, anyone have cliff notes on diff between scion/subie versions?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
thanks. yeah, didn't think it was likely.

is limited slip diff avail.? besides minor looks details, anyone have cliff notes on diff between scion/subie versions?
According to Motor Trend, the chassis are the same, but the suspension is different.

The Scion will have softer fronts and stiffer rears; for agility. More control into a corner. It'll be drift worthy.

The Subie will have firmer fronts and softer rears; for stability. More control out of a corner.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
thanks. yeah, didn't think it was likely.

is limited slip diff avail.? besides minor looks details, anyone have cliff notes on diff between scion/subie versions?
torsen is standard. all differences are minor.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
torsen is standard. all differences are minor.
sweet, thanks!
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Topgear review said Subaru is working on Supercharger model. Hope it's true.
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it didn't take too long for TRD to get a Supercharger kit going for the tC, so I wouldn't be too surprised if TRD and other tuners alike started offering bolt-on kits.
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