Toyota/Subaru/Scion Lightweight Sports Car: Toyota GT86, Subaru BRZ, Scion FRS!
03-09-12, 06:50 PM
#2118
extremely helpful post of a guy measuring out a production BRZ, he is 6'3" and can fit inside
http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/for...e/posts#423976
http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/for...e/posts#423976
03-09-12, 07:09 PM
#2119
extremely helpful post of a guy measuring out a production BRZ, he is 6'3" and can fit inside
http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/for...e/posts#423976
http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/for...e/posts#423976
Not really cheap tires either.
03-21-12, 11:38 AM
#2120
http://www.leftlanenews.com/scion-fr-s-subaru-br-z-receive-official-fuel-economy-rati
http://www.leftlanenews.com/scion-fr...y-ratings.html
So what give me the manual!!! 
By Nat Shirley
The development and release process of the lightweight, rear-wheel-drive Scion FR-S/ Subaru BRZ twins has seemed to stretch on for eons. However, the EPA has just released its fuel economy ratings for the duo, a move that typically indicates a vehicle’s impending arrival in showrooms.
Given the cars’ roughly 2800-pound curb weight and small 2.0-liter four-cylinder motor, one would expect decent mileage, and that’s certainly the case for two-pedal models. With the optional six-speed autobox, the cars are rated at 25 mpg in the city and 34 mpg on the highway, placing them at the top of their competitive set for fuel efficiency.
Manual fans must make due with significantly lower mileage, unfortunately: stick-shifted models return 22/30 mpg, according to the EPA. That figure compares with the heavier, larger-engined V6 Mustang’s 19/29 mpg rating with a manual.
Subaru and Scion have only vaguely specified that FR-S and BRZ will arrive in dealerships in “spring 2012,” though rumors point to a mid-April or early May release date.
The development and release process of the lightweight, rear-wheel-drive Scion FR-S/ Subaru BRZ twins has seemed to stretch on for eons. However, the EPA has just released its fuel economy ratings for the duo, a move that typically indicates a vehicle’s impending arrival in showrooms.
Given the cars’ roughly 2800-pound curb weight and small 2.0-liter four-cylinder motor, one would expect decent mileage, and that’s certainly the case for two-pedal models. With the optional six-speed autobox, the cars are rated at 25 mpg in the city and 34 mpg on the highway, placing them at the top of their competitive set for fuel efficiency.
Manual fans must make due with significantly lower mileage, unfortunately: stick-shifted models return 22/30 mpg, according to the EPA. That figure compares with the heavier, larger-engined V6 Mustang’s 19/29 mpg rating with a manual.
Subaru and Scion have only vaguely specified that FR-S and BRZ will arrive in dealerships in “spring 2012,” though rumors point to a mid-April or early May release date.
03-21-12, 11:58 AM
#2121
Lexus Connoisseur
Rest assured, it makes for a good story. If the FR-S/BRZ/86 can handle well with Prius Spec tires, imagine what it can do with serious rubber. The 86 is a purpose built fun to drive sports car. It was engineered well from the start, even with eco tires!
03-21-12, 01:23 PM
#2122
Lexus Fanatic
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a stick would be the most fun in this car, but more than 10% better economy with the auto might sway more buyers that way. interesting. i'm guessing the manual gearing is lower for more 'fun'.
03-21-12, 01:36 PM
#2123
Well they are Green X tires so they do qualify as low rolling resistance tires which does favor the eco crowd.
Rest assured, it makes for a good story. If the FR-S/BRZ/86 can handle well with Prius Spec tires, imagine what it can do with serious rubber. The 86 is a purpose built fun to drive sports car. It was engineered well from the start, even with eco tires!
Rest assured, it makes for a good story. If the FR-S/BRZ/86 can handle well with Prius Spec tires, imagine what it can do with serious rubber. The 86 is a purpose built fun to drive sports car. It was engineered well from the start, even with eco tires!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....HPV2&tab=Sizes
it is one of the most expensive tires you can buy for this size at $240 each...
03-21-12, 01:37 PM
#2124
i am sure... good thing about this car is that good mpg is paired with good throttle response, no delay.
03-21-12, 06:57 PM
#2126
More or less the same as posted above;
Small, rear-wheel drive, manually shifted coupes can be exciting, no? Fun and zippy to drive, and because of their tighter dimensions and lower weight, they tend to be easy on the gas, right?
Well, in the case of the Subaru BRZ and the Scion FR-S, maybe not as much as we'd have hoped. Sure, they have smallish 2.0-liter four-cylinders and six-speed manual transmissions, but their hunger for gasoline is just average. Official EPA fuel efficiency numbers are in, and the BRZ and FR-S with manual transmissions net 22 miles per gallon city and 30 highway on premium fuel. Still, that's about the same as the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe with the four-cylinder and manual tranny which gets 21/30 on premium, and it's better than the aging Mazda MX-5 Miata which returns 21/28.
The BRZ and FR-S chug less fuel if you outfit them with the optional automatic transmission. They probably won't be as much fun, but they will return numbers close to 25 city/34 highway.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/21/s...up-on-epa-sit/
Well, in the case of the Subaru BRZ and the Scion FR-S, maybe not as much as we'd have hoped. Sure, they have smallish 2.0-liter four-cylinders and six-speed manual transmissions, but their hunger for gasoline is just average. Official EPA fuel efficiency numbers are in, and the BRZ and FR-S with manual transmissions net 22 miles per gallon city and 30 highway on premium fuel. Still, that's about the same as the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe with the four-cylinder and manual tranny which gets 21/30 on premium, and it's better than the aging Mazda MX-5 Miata which returns 21/28.
The BRZ and FR-S chug less fuel if you outfit them with the optional automatic transmission. They probably won't be as much fun, but they will return numbers close to 25 city/34 highway.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/21/s...up-on-epa-sit/
03-21-12, 10:33 PM
#2128
Tech Info Resource
iTrader: (2)
Nothing but comedy from Toyota these days. Their attorneys are killjoy ******.
03-21-12, 10:42 PM
#2129
Lexus Test Driver
Was expecting higher MPG numbers than those. In this day and age, with everyone producing increased efficiencies, that is disappointing.
03-21-12, 11:11 PM
#2130
Lexus Fanatic
I have read nothing but positive reviews in terms of the handling of these new coupes. Its promising. As a guy who looks forward to building a light sports car so I can do autocross with my kids in the future cars like this will be gems when old and used. Fun, cheap, well balanced, and reliable track cars ...........sounds good to me