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Old 04-05-12, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ap1_Alan
Why would anyone buy the Scion version? Seems like the Subaru comes with much more for a small price difference (unless the base Scion includes HID, nav, and bluetooth and i missed it).
difference is Xenons and Navigation for $1200.

Scion still has nice looking projectors and Pioneer sound system with Bluetooth support.
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Old 04-05-12, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
difference is Xenons and Navigation for $1200.

Scion still has nice looking projectors and Pioneer sound system with Bluetooth support.
That's still a good deal, plus the subaru interior looked better IMO
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Old 04-05-12, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ap1_Alan
That's still a good deal, plus the subaru interior looked better IMO
it is same interior... you are probably thinking digital AC controls, but they are only in Premium, which is more expensive... as is other stuff in Premium model like smart entry and alcantra seats.

but it is $3.2k extra.

otherwise, i preffer FR-S carbon look plastic vs BRZ's silver one.

it is all a good deal... you pay $1.2k extra for nav and xenon and then $2k for alcantra, digital air, heated mirrors, smart entry and rear deck spoiler. so a little bit for everyone.
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Old 04-05-12, 03:30 PM
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so the actual price difference is $1315 plus you get floormats and 2 year maintenance for free with Scion... so $1700 or so?
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Any way you look at it they are both great cars at a great price. I personally like the Subaru version better over all but I think I would prefer to have the option of servicing my car with Toyota rather than Subaru . They most likely have a lot more dealerships and service options
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Old 04-05-12, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
so the actual price difference is $1315 plus you get floormats and 2 year maintenance for free with Scion... so $1700 or so?
I wonder how the actual purchase prices will look after a couple months. You can negotiate with Subaru, Scion prices are fixed. The real world price gap might be even smaller
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Originally Posted by Ap1_Alan
I wonder how the actual purchase prices will look after a couple months. You can negotiate with Subaru, Scion prices are fixed. The real world price gap might be even smaller
Subaru will have so little BRZ's to sell (2x-3x less than Scion) that they wont be discounted for sure. Also Scion can have lower prices, they simply have to be advertised.

Keep in mind Toyota and Subaru worked on this pricing together, to have the cars positioned on the market worldwide... they wont compete on price.
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Old 04-05-12, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by I8ABMR
Any way you look at it they are both great cars at a great price. I personally like the Subaru version better over all but I think I would prefer to have the option of servicing my car with Toyota rather than Subaru . They most likely have a lot more dealerships and service options
lets be realistic here, our Euro version is superior:






but it is also $50k-$60k.

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Originally Posted by spwolf
Subaru will have so little BRZ's to sell (2x-3x less than Scion) that they wont be discounted for sure.
Yep. Subaru is only exporting 500 a month to the US, and so their dealers are going to do the same thing they did when the WRX came out in 2001, which is add $2-3k in dealer markups to the sticker price.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
lets be realistic here, our Euro version is superior:

but it is also $50k-$60k.

:-)
It really is.

Bet some rebadges are underway lol
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Originally Posted by Ap1_Alan
I wonder how the actual purchase prices will look after a couple months. You can negotiate with Subaru, Scion prices are fixed. The real world price gap might be even smaller
Actually, real world price gap may be larger when Subaru dealers add a mark up to the msrp of the more limited numbers of BRZ's
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Old 04-05-12, 08:12 PM
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That price is sensational!
 
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Originally Posted by spwolf
lets be realistic here, our Euro version is superior:
couldn't agree more! i'm bummed that US doesn't get the Toyota version (GT86) that the rest of the world gets.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
lets be realistic here, our Euro version is superior:

but it is also $50k-$60k.

:-)
But... but... JDM 86 has Modelista and TRD accessories.
And the BBK is almost 10K LOL
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i wished they brought the 86 over too...does the euro version have a higher red-line (7400), i thought it was 7000. time to go hunting for pics

edit: guess i was wrong...US versions have the same 7400 redline

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