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Old 04-06-12, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by baddis es
i wished they brought the 86 over too...does the euro version have a higher red-line (7400), i thought it was 7000. time to go hunting for pics

edit: guess i was wrong...US versions have the same 7400 redline
We also get 3 more ponies.
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Dyno #'s out from IL. That 4k torque hiccup is nasty....too bad they didn't run it on an inertially loaded dyno....


http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...cion-fr-s.html
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Originally Posted by baddis es
i wished they brought the 86 over too...does the euro version have a higher red-line (7400), i thought it was 7000. time to go hunting for pics

edit: guess i was wrong...US versions have the same 7400 redline
and USDM has 3hp more than JDM model.
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Old 04-12-12, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ST430
Dyno #'s out from IL. That 4k torque hiccup is nasty....too bad they didn't run it on an inertially loaded dyno....


http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...cion-fr-s.html
it has best torque and power curve of all N/A <=2.0l engines I have seen so far... That "drop" has higher torque than 2ZZGE or K20 at that RPM :-), and overall this engine has 2000 rpm more of usable torque/power compared to those legendary engines.

K20 for instance had 100lbs torque at 4500rpm... FR-S has 100lbs at less than 2000 rpm it seems, and 140lbs at wheels at 2500 rpm.

It means when driving it, it will race through revs for 5000 rpm without feel of letting you down, unlike K20 that was 3000 rpm, or 2ZZGE which was 2000 rpm albeit crazy 2000 rpm... or GTI with turbo which has 2500rpm of full torque.
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Old 04-12-12, 09:44 AM
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It also seems to suffer less drivetrain loss which is great.

The car has basically been thrown every compliment in the book by every reviewer. You really have to hate Toyota to hate this car
 
Old 04-12-12, 10:26 AM
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The 2013 Scion FR-S doesn't have the kind of power that results in jaw-dropping dyno numbers, but any naturally aspirated 2.0-liter four cylinder that promises 200 horsepower and 151 pound-feet of torque needs to be vetted out.

The good people at Edmunds did the vetting, and the hotly anticipated Scion model performed, well, predictably. The FR-S delivered what Edmunds called "the most repeatable runs on the dyno of any car in recent memory," with peak wheel power measuring 173 horsepower at 7,000 RPM and 143 pound-feet of torque at 2,500 revolutions. Keep in mind that these numbers are at the wheels, not at the crankshaft where factory numbers are recorded.

One interesting stat that showed up on the line graph was a 14% drop in torque between 3,200 and 4,500 RPM. This was reportedly done by engineers on purpose to increase driving pleasure lower in the rev range, which sounds like a solid compromise to us. Hit the jump to watch the video, and make sure to turn up your speakers for optimal boxer four enjoyment.

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Hopefully this is not a repost, but I saw some photoshop/pics of Five Axis' possible tune/kit for the FR-S. There is a video but I can't see it from work. It looks clean in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Individual
Hopefully this is not a repost, but I saw some photoshop/pics of Five Axis' possible tune/kit for the FR-S. There is a video but I can't see it from work. It looks clean in my opinion.

It does look great IMO, but the kit is so expensive for just plastic add ons to original bumpers and sides.
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Old 04-12-12, 02:24 PM
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Looks great...I hope they offer a kit with a front bumper that fits the Subaru!
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Old 04-13-12, 06:38 AM
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Interesting video on Subaru.com shows the BRZ on a 4 wheel dyno....hmmmm....

This engine will certainly find its way into the rest of the Subaru lineup. The 2013 AWD Legacy boasts 32 MPG. It can only go up from here. Perhaps we might see a 2.0L turbo IS in the future....maybe.
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Old 04-13-12, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SLegacy99
Interesting video on Subaru.com shows the BRZ on a 4 wheel dyno....hmmmm....

This engine will certainly find its way into the rest of the Subaru lineup. The 2013 AWD Legacy boasts 32 MPG. It can only go up from here. Perhaps we might see a 2.0L turbo IS in the future....maybe.
thats probably because they use it for their own cars usually :-).
But there is no space for awd there, nor need.
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Old 04-13-12, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
But there is no space for awd there, nor need.
Agreed, the space is not there having seen it up close. As for need, well to each is own.
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Old 04-13-12, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SLegacy99
Agreed, the space is not there having seen it up close. As for need, well to each is own.
you got WRX for AWD need :-)
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#fiveaxiskitfail - looks terrible. completely unnecessary - hey lets throw a bunch of plastic on here that will scrape on the ground and slow the car down?
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

The car has basically been thrown every compliment in the book by every reviewer. You really have to hate Toyota to hate this car
??? Toyota only did the body/interior. Subaru did the powertrain and chassis.
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