Toyota/Subaru/Scion Lightweight Sports Car: Toyota GT86, Subaru BRZ, Scion FRS!
10-06-09, 05:24 PM
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The Subaru 2.0L is the greatest engine. We last saw in the U.S. in the 2005 WRX. Subaru then upgraded to the 2.5L turbo which produced more HP and torque while consuming the same amount of fuel. That being said, I'm sure this engine has changed since then. Especially if it is being fitted with direct injection and I would assume a 6MT.
10-06-09, 06:11 PM
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One thing I've been trying to visualize, this car is supposedly quite compact and small...as it should be, but in real life that should be readily apparent. If as Akio Toyoda says, this is the first in a line of such vehicles, I can imagine a Supra-sized companion to the FT-86 down the road...
10-06-09, 06:16 PM
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One thing I've been trying to visualize, this car is supposedly quite compact and small...as it should be, but in real life that should be readily apparent. If as Akio Toyoda says, this is the first in a line of such vehicles, I can imagine a Supra-sized companion to the FT-86 down the road...
10-06-09, 07:51 PM
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One thing I've been trying to visualize, this car is supposedly quite compact and small...as it should be, but in real life that should be readily apparent. If as Akio Toyoda says, this is the first in a line of such vehicles, I can imagine a Supra-sized companion to the FT-86 down the road...
? I'm sure that is no coincidence 
.The FT-HS also has quite different dimensions than this car. The FT-HS is actually wider and overall a larger car, although it's roof is almost as low. Compared to this, the FT-HS also has side air intakes indicating it is a more serious performance car.
I think the signs are good that the FT-HS will make it to production.
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10-06-09, 07:57 PM
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Also to those worried about the car's power, this is not a regular version of Subaru's EJ20. This has been reworked and updated by Toyota. It's got a new cylinder head design, and it also has direct injection. Both fuel economy and performance is said to be increased from the regular EJ20. Achieving 200HP or more should be no problem.
10-06-09, 08:31 PM
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Interesting, I thought the FT-HS is the basis for the FT-86? Or is the FT-HS the predecessor of a separate vehicle? It will be fascinating to see, how they straddle the line between a familial resemblance and individualism with regard to any vehicle larger than the FT-86, but in a similar vein.
Nonetheless, I think the FT-86 can potentially hit a sweet spot for Toyota if priced well in the $20,000 class...small, stylish, and sporty....whereas the larger, RX-8 size class is a harder sell, both size and costwise. Still I'd like to see a Supra-like successor...we all would.
Meanwhile, the Scion tC successor would remain FWD, leaving Toyota to get this promising RWD coupe. Celica AE86 sounds like a name...
Nonetheless, I think the FT-86 can potentially hit a sweet spot for Toyota if priced well in the $20,000 class...small, stylish, and sporty....whereas the larger, RX-8 size class is a harder sell, both size and costwise. Still I'd like to see a Supra-like successor...we all would.
Meanwhile, the Scion tC successor would remain FWD, leaving Toyota to get this promising RWD coupe. Celica AE86 sounds like a name...
10-06-09, 09:07 PM
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Comparison between FT-86 and FT-HS
Vehicle : FT-86 Concept
Length: 4,160 mm = 162 inches
Width: 1,760 mm = 68 inches
Height: 1,260 mm = 48.19 inches
Wheelbase: 2,570 mm = 100.3 inches
Vehicle: FT-HS Concept
Overall Length: 170.27
Overall Width: 73.23
Overall Height: 50.79
Wheelbase: 104.33
All in all they are quite similar, and I really thought that the FTHS was larger than it actually is. I hope the production car has the extra few inches that the FT-HS does...it would make a big difference for most people.
For additional comparison:
Vehicle : FT-86 Concept
Length: 162 inches
Width: 68 inches
Height: 48.19 inches
Wheelbase: 100.3 inches
Vehicle: FT-HS Concept
Length: 170.27
Width: 73.23
Height: 50.79
Wheelbase: 104.33
Vehicle: 370Z
Length: 167.2 in.
Width: 72.8 in.
Height: 51.8 in.
Wheel Base: 100.4 in.
Vehicle: Genesis Coupe
Length: 182.3 in.
Width: 73.4 in.
Height: 54.5 in.
Wheel Base: 111 in.
...quite close to the 370Z, but nowhere near the Genesis.
Vehicle : FT-86 Concept
Length: 4,160 mm = 162 inches
Width: 1,760 mm = 68 inches
Height: 1,260 mm = 48.19 inches
Wheelbase: 2,570 mm = 100.3 inches
Vehicle: FT-HS Concept
Overall Length: 170.27
Overall Width: 73.23
Overall Height: 50.79
Wheelbase: 104.33
All in all they are quite similar, and I really thought that the FTHS was larger than it actually is. I hope the production car has the extra few inches that the FT-HS does...it would make a big difference for most people.
For additional comparison:
Vehicle : FT-86 Concept
Length: 162 inches
Width: 68 inches
Height: 48.19 inches
Wheelbase: 100.3 inches
Vehicle: FT-HS Concept
Length: 170.27
Width: 73.23
Height: 50.79
Wheelbase: 104.33
Vehicle: 370Z
Length: 167.2 in.
Width: 72.8 in.
Height: 51.8 in.
Wheel Base: 100.4 in.
Vehicle: Genesis Coupe
Length: 182.3 in.
Width: 73.4 in.
Height: 54.5 in.
Wheel Base: 111 in.
...quite close to the 370Z, but nowhere near the Genesis.