Toyota/Subaru/Scion Lightweight Sports Car: Toyota GT86, Subaru BRZ, Scion FRS!
03-04-10, 10:27 AM
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03-04-10, 11:15 AM
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It will not be the new tC (tC replacement actually). Scions have a high-value low-cost business model, where they make most of the money off financing and accessories installed. All of their current offerings are under $20k standard.
Toyota went out of their way to keep it a Toyota branded vehicle. They want to market it as a Toyota so that they can have something sporting with in the Toyota brand.
Toyota went out of their way to keep it a Toyota branded vehicle. They want to market it as a Toyota so that they can have something sporting with in the Toyota brand.
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03-04-10, 11:53 AM
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It will not be the new tC (tC replacement actually). Scions have a high-value low-cost business model, where they make most of the money off financing and accessories installed. All of their current offerings are under $20k standard.
Toyota went out of their way to keep it a Toyota branded vehicle. They want to market it as a Toyota so that they can have something sporting with in the Toyota brand.
Toyota went out of their way to keep it a Toyota branded vehicle. They want to market it as a Toyota so that they can have something sporting with in the Toyota brand.
03-04-10, 12:36 PM
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03-05-10, 09:42 PM
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04-21-10, 07:20 AM
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http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/248971/
Ballooning development costs will result in a more expensive Toyota FT-86 when it arrives late next year, according to an insider close to Toyota.
When the concept was unveiled at last year’s Tokyo motor show, a Toyota engineer said that the company was aiming for an entry-level price in Japan of around £13,000.
See pictures of the Toyota FT-86
But the R&D team is now more focused on minimising fuel consumption and producing the cleanest engine possible; the Subaru boxer engine planned for the car is not considered to be that clean or fuel-efficient. That could force the Japanese price up to around £15,000, with the range-topper costing £17,000.
The hike in the cost moves the FT-86 further away from the original concept of a cheap, entry-level sports car and will no doubt be a disappointment to the people within Toyota who fought hard to get the project approved by bosses.
The car is also likely to be marketed to older buyers than originally planned, too. The head of Toyota’s newly created sports vehicle department, Tetsuya Tada, told Autocar that his team had increased the target age group by 10 years, from the 30s to 40s, after market research revealed that fewer younger buyers would opt for the sleek coupé than first thought.
When the concept was unveiled at last year’s Tokyo motor show, a Toyota engineer said that the company was aiming for an entry-level price in Japan of around £13,000.
See pictures of the Toyota FT-86
But the R&D team is now more focused on minimising fuel consumption and producing the cleanest engine possible; the Subaru boxer engine planned for the car is not considered to be that clean or fuel-efficient. That could force the Japanese price up to around £15,000, with the range-topper costing £17,000.
The hike in the cost moves the FT-86 further away from the original concept of a cheap, entry-level sports car and will no doubt be a disappointment to the people within Toyota who fought hard to get the project approved by bosses.
The car is also likely to be marketed to older buyers than originally planned, too. The head of Toyota’s newly created sports vehicle department, Tetsuya Tada, told Autocar that his team had increased the target age group by 10 years, from the 30s to 40s, after market research revealed that fewer younger buyers would opt for the sleek coupé than first thought.
04-21-10, 09:37 AM
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If true, I'm going to predict a failure.
Mid-40 year olds are going to go German or Mustang/Camaro/Charger rather than a small, slow, I-look-like-a-sports-car-but-I'm-not coupe.
Doesn't Toyota have enough small, fuel efficient, (& hybrid) cars?
Let's hope VW stays on track with their cheap roadster (and famously tune-able turbo engines).
Mid-40 year olds are going to go German or Mustang/Camaro/Charger rather than a small, slow, I-look-like-a-sports-car-but-I'm-not coupe.
Doesn't Toyota have enough small, fuel efficient, (& hybrid) cars?
Let's hope VW stays on track with their cheap roadster (and famously tune-able turbo engines).
04-21-10, 12:46 PM
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The cost structures in Europe vs. the US are different, however although I'm not too familiar with the past pricing, the question on whether this will be more Celica expensive vs. MR-2 expensive vs. Supra expensive is interesting.
04-21-10, 04:57 PM
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People jumping to conclusions yet again.Increased fuel economy and cleaner engine does mean reduced performance.
Toyota is not stupid. They will not overprice the production FT-86.
The Genesis Coupe starts at 22K, has a cheap interior, and the 4 cyl Genesis doesn't exactly offer tremendous performance.
Let's wait for final pricing and the production version of the FT-86 before jumping to conclusions.