Toyota/Subaru/Scion Lightweight Sports Car: Toyota GT86, Subaru BRZ, Scion FRS!
03-01-11, 12:14 AM
#766
Was it really necessary to make the styling changes they did? The FT-86 concept was sublime. Perfect. Is that super tacky vent necessary? And the huge front wheel arches? Why did they have to change the side surfacing? The original side surfacing was far cleaner and it just looked sportier. And the rear... Well I like the new rear as much as the old rear so I can't really say much there. And the front, despite being way longer (I recognize the need for that) looks better too, imo. The car doesn't look bad, but it doesnt' look as good as the original, and for no real good reason either. The new side makes the greenhouse look dumpy and not as modern as the first concept. So much potential...
But if I could change just one thing... please please please get rid of that awful vent, Toyota. This car looks pretty much production ready but, hell, SO DID THE FIRST CONCEPT
But if I could change just one thing... please please please get rid of that awful vent, Toyota. This car looks pretty much production ready but, hell, SO DID THE FIRST CONCEPT
03-01-11, 12:18 AM
#767
Lexus Champion
This is meant for the younger crowd, not 40 and 50 year olds. The first concept IMO was kinda bland. Not much going on, the lines were good, but the same lines are on this car. Look at the rest of the pictures, I think it's great.
03-01-11, 12:18 AM
#768
I'm not too particularly fond of this view:
It doesn't really look coherent to me. The front end is mostly edgy but the rest are curvy. It's not bad, but please Toyota do something about the rear end before you put it into production!
Damn it why can't car companies just give us the concept version that looks good and call it a day?
It doesn't really look coherent to me. The front end is mostly edgy but the rest are curvy. It's not bad, but please Toyota do something about the rear end before you put it into production!
Damn it why can't car companies just give us the concept version that looks good and call it a day?
03-01-11, 12:21 AM
#769
Looks good. Like the little body kit on it. Not too much, the tail lights look like the headlights! That's a neat little touch. Liking the fact they're clear as well. The wheels are definite keepers also. The vent is the new thing. I don't see what the complaints about it are. The wheel arches look fine too. I think you need to look at the other photos too. It looks good to me.
My thoughts exactly. Simple clean and sporty lines. Modern and tidy.
03-01-11, 12:22 AM
#770
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My first impression was G37 IPL/Genesis meets Cayman with some Japanese aftermarket styling enhancements, to put it nicely. It is incredibly aggressive (it seriously caught me by surprise, but its growing on me) and I can totally understand why some may not like it. IMO, I think Toyota needs to have this level of design aggressiveness for the FT-86 (even if its an option package similar to F-sport). They have been bland for far to long.
FWIW, I find the FT-86 G-sport to be the most attractive out of the three.
FWIW, I find the FT-86 G-sport to be the most attractive out of the three.
Last edited by GFerg; 03-01-11 at 12:31 AM.
03-01-11, 12:54 AM
#776
Sigh!
03-01-11, 01:03 AM
#777
Lexus Fanatic
I like this a little better than version 1.
too bad they got rid of the black A-pillar.
only things i don't like are the bump above the wheel arch, and how (from the front 1/4 angle) the rear slopes down like there's no ***.
I like the taillights on this better. more evil looking.
too bad they got rid of the black A-pillar.
only things i don't like are the bump above the wheel arch, and how (from the front 1/4 angle) the rear slopes down like there's no ***.
I like the taillights on this better. more evil looking.
Last edited by dunnojack; 03-01-11 at 01:09 AM.
03-01-11, 01:06 AM
#778
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Looks pretty good overall. A few things I hate about it just like the original FT-86 concept, but overall looks GREAT.
Not jumping to any conclusions as this is still a concept. Also it seems nobody else mentioned that this is following the LFA in terms of concept "pattern". The original LFA concept was very clean, sleek, and simple. The LFA II concept was more round, wavy, and a lot more curvy. The production LFA is a mixture of styling from both concepts. FT-86 concept is clean, sleek, simple. FT-86 II concept is more round, wavy, more curvy and has some more complexities especially at the front and rear. FT-86 production version I expect will have styling from both concepts.
It's still a concept. Take off the tacky pieces, and you have a very good-looking car.
I admit the side character lines could be a bit more aggressive, and in some ways I do prefer the "leaner" look the original concept has.
I think the production model will have a mixture of styling from both concepts.
It's quite obvious Toyota is still trying to mask the look of the final production version. This already looks better than just about any other affordable coupe on the market including the Genesis coupe and G37 coupe.
Not jumping to any conclusions as this is still a concept. Also it seems nobody else mentioned that this is following the LFA in terms of concept "pattern". The original LFA concept was very clean, sleek, and simple. The LFA II concept was more round, wavy, and a lot more curvy. The production LFA is a mixture of styling from both concepts. FT-86 concept is clean, sleek, simple. FT-86 II concept is more round, wavy, more curvy and has some more complexities especially at the front and rear. FT-86 production version I expect will have styling from both concepts.
Was it really necessary to make the styling changes they did? The FT-86 concept was sublime. Perfect. Is that super tacky vent necessary? And the huge front wheel arches? Why did they have to change the side surfacing? The original side surfacing was far cleaner and it just looked sportier. And the rear... Well I like the new rear as much as the old rear so I can't really say much there. And the front, despite being way longer (I recognize the need for that) looks better too, imo. The car doesn't look bad, but it doesnt' look as good as the original, and for no real good reason either. The new side makes the greenhouse look dumpy and not as modern as the first concept. So much potential...
But if I could change just one thing... please please please get rid of that awful vent, Toyota. This car looks pretty much production ready but, hell, SO DID THE FIRST CONCEPT
But if I could change just one thing... please please please get rid of that awful vent, Toyota. This car looks pretty much production ready but, hell, SO DID THE FIRST CONCEPT
I admit the side character lines could be a bit more aggressive, and in some ways I do prefer the "leaner" look the original concept has.
I think the production model will have a mixture of styling from both concepts.
It's quite obvious Toyota is still trying to mask the look of the final production version. This already looks better than just about any other affordable coupe on the market including the Genesis coupe and G37 coupe.
03-01-11, 01:26 AM
#779
I eat Germans for breakfast.
Once again, Mr. Toyoda, who ever did FT-S concept design needs to be put in charge of creating brand look for Toyota and Lexus. FT-S II improves on already amazing design. Now give us turbo version and dont talk crap about how "pure" normally aspirated engine is...
Last edited by spwolf; 03-01-11 at 01:30 AM.
03-01-11, 01:35 AM
#780
Lexus Fanatic
I wish the side character line were continuous from the vent to the back, sorta like the FT86/1
instead of 2 broken lines.... I think that would make the car look beefier.
other than that, this is one mean looking car I'd buy.
instead of 2 broken lines.... I think that would make the car look beefier.
other than that, this is one mean looking car I'd buy.
Last edited by dunnojack; 03-01-11 at 02:08 AM.