Toyota/Subaru/Scion Lightweight Sports Car: Toyota GT86, Subaru BRZ, Scion FRS!
#1021
Lexus Fanatic
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
if that article is true, and they are basing the final production on the ft86ii, that's gonna be disappointing, esp after toning it down.
the proportions on the ft86ii are off. the rear fender doesn't look muscular.
the proportions on the ft86ii are off. the rear fender doesn't look muscular.
#1023
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Toyota ist = xA
Toyota bB (gen 1)/Corolla Rumion (gen 2) = xB
Toyota Zelas = tC
Toyota ? = FR-S
No, they just need to sell the Toyota version here and call it a Celica. Having the two exact same cars with two different badges and slightly different aesthetics within the Toyota family makes no sense. Heck, that may already be the case with the Subaru version.
Toyota bB (gen 1)/Corolla Rumion (gen 2) = xB
Toyota Zelas = tC
Toyota ? = FR-S
No, they just need to sell the Toyota version here and call it a Celica. Having the two exact same cars with two different badges and slightly different aesthetics within the Toyota family makes no sense. Heck, that may already be the case with the Subaru version.
Last edited by Motor; 04-30-11 at 09:41 PM.
#1024
Racer
iTrader: (4)
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
i really hope Toyota brings that car here and name it Toyota not Scion. by naming it Scion, it just cheapening the car, imo. when you hear Scion, first thing comes up in my mind is front wheel drive high schooler's car with altezza tail lights and neon lighting. i'm sorry, but that's the image of any Scion cars imo. branding the FT-86 Toyota will attract more mature buyers, like me. it'll definitely stir up memory of the Supra and Toyota racing heritage of the 80s and early 90s. seriously if they come as Scion, i will go buy the Subaru variant, no question ask.
#1027
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
werent most Scions actually JDM Toyota's, unlike other NA Toyotas that were mostly built for Western markets?
#1028
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I agree that some JDM feel is lost only because Scion is a US brand though.
#1029
Guest
Posts: n/a
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Toyota ist = xA
Toyota bB (gen 1)/Corolla Rumion (gen 2) = xB
Toyota Zelas = tC
Toyota ? = FR-S
No, they just need to sell the Toyota version here and call it a Celica. Having the two exact same cars with two different badges and slightly different aesthetics within the Toyota family makes no sense. Heck, that may already be the case with the Subaru version.
Toyota bB (gen 1)/Corolla Rumion (gen 2) = xB
Toyota Zelas = tC
Toyota ? = FR-S
No, they just need to sell the Toyota version here and call it a Celica. Having the two exact same cars with two different badges and slightly different aesthetics within the Toyota family makes no sense. Heck, that may already be the case with the Subaru version.
Toyota can't complain that people think they are old and boring if they decide to sell a Scion version and no Toyota version. I would say most people don't even know Scion is a Toyota brand. Scion does need this car too, they are struggling but so does Toyota in AMERICA.
It would also help spread the costs around to have 3 or 4 versions.
As many here have mentioned SCION has an image problem, we see the comments here and I've seen it elsewhere. People would buy a Toyota version with no issue, a Scion does have an image problem where people might not buy it b/c of the badge.
#1032
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I am surprised by negativity towards Scion by older buyers, but that is what it is I guess.
#1033
Lexus Fanatic
#1034