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Old 11-01-11, 11:02 PM
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Just read the full specs at FT-86 club.... Wow, just wow. I want this car!!!

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2096

Makes me want to trade in my IS250!!!! (well... Kinda )
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Old 11-02-11, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by xioix
Some more performance parts would be nice, but that's a good step to having those parts available from the start
you mean FI? Because there are a lot of suspension parts there :-)
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Old 11-02-11, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
you mean FI? Because there are a lot of suspension parts there :-)
Not just FI, but other engine performance stuff would be nice
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Old 11-02-11, 02:44 AM
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Looks awesome!!! I would totally buy it if I didn't have an 90 mile commute 5 days a week

Hopefully this will spark Toyota/Scion's creativity again
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Old 11-02-11, 02:59 AM
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$100 says this car won't live up to the hype.
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Old 11-02-11, 12:24 PM
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I think it'll be fairly successful. A flat 4 in a Toyota might be different but I think a lot of people are gonna buy it.
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Old 11-02-11, 01:30 PM
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Wow, with the TRD parts the car looks flat out exotic. Dang!
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Old 11-02-11, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by xioix
Not just FI, but other engine performance stuff would be nice
not sure how much extra can be really gotten from car that already gets 200hp from 2.0l engine, without something like VVTLi. I am sure tuners will have some interesting parts.

Back when I had MR-S and Corolla TS, there were gazillion tuners working on MR-S/Celica engines. Turbos, headers, etc, etc, everywhere you turn.
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Old 11-02-11, 04:49 PM
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Cams, headers, exhaust, intake, basically boltons should pump the power to 200RWHP, that would be nice.
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Old 11-02-11, 08:02 PM
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Car and Driver has an excellent article on it this month....including a test-drive of the heavily-disguised pre=production version:

Subaru did virtually all of the chassis/drivetrain engineering (using only a Toyota rear-differental), while Toyota did the body/styling and interior. And the Subaru drive-train/chassis engineers were given latitude to do their work before the styling even began, so that were were no compromises under the skin (except, of course, required by the car's $28,000 base-price)

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...rototype-drive
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Old 11-02-11, 08:16 PM
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Whoa 28k base price. That's a bit much for a car with such little hp. Isn't that Mustang, 370z territory?
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Old 11-02-11, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SRTGS300
Whoa 28k base price. That's a bit much for a car with such little hp. Isn't that Mustang, 370z territory?
Price is not always determined by power. Look at the Lotus Elise, for example, a much smaller car than this one, and with substatially less power. It sells for twice the price.

Price is usually (but now always) primarily determined by the cost of production, and by what the auto manufacturer thinks the projected market will bear.

The fact that this car will not have many active-competitors doesn't do much either, of course, to help keep the price down. There are few small RWD sports-coupes currently in the American market....which is one of the reasons why this car is being developed in the first-place. Yes, you have the BMW Z4 and 128/135, but they cost substantially more....as does the Mercedes SLK convetible hard-top.

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Old 11-02-11, 09:20 PM
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Everything that I've read has said that te starting price will be sub 25k... Even as low as 20k.
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Old 11-02-11, 10:28 PM
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I'd wait for the official price announcement, and not go by C&D's estimated price
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Old 11-03-11, 12:04 AM
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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2131

rest of the engine specs leaked... hp curve looks pretty steady, 12.5 compression ratio, center of gravity lesser than cayman, GT-R higher than LFA... foldable rear seats (from trunk) that can fit 4 tires/ 2 golf bags, rear child seats can be fitted...
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