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Old 10-15-07, 07:08 PM
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V-dub in da haus.....

I don't think its a bad move on Porsche's part to obtain the largest German car manufacturer. Since it also owns Audi and Lamborghini, it would benefit from such technology. The family sedans are where the money are and Porsche realizes that. Whether or not they can boost up VW, I have no idea. But if they are able to survive through all their hardships from the past I'm sure they'll manage.
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Old 10-15-07, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
wait.. so if they're buying VW.. that means they're taking over Audi, Bugatti, Skoda and Lamborghini?
Don't forget Lotus as well.
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Old 10-15-07, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mavericck
Don't forget Lotus as well.
Lotus too? Did not know that, thanks!
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
Lotus too? Did not know that, thanks!
Lotus' majority holding share is Proton. Not VW.

Originally Posted by mmarshall
Didn't think Porsche had the kind of money to buy VW....a much larger firm. Porsche, at least among mainstream auto manufacturers, is one of the smallest ones in the buisness......they are not Toyota or GM by any means. And what is even more strange is that Porsche has always wanted to be independent and not tied down to or allied with any other auto firm, though there are loose ties to VW and Audi. Porsche prides itself on that independence.
Porsche is actually one of the highest yielding car companies, they make the most profit off of each car they sell than any other company. So they probably have a ton of money. They don't seem that crazy about independence, they have the Cayenne which is a group effort chassis from VW, Porsche, Audi and Volvo. There has been talk about using Toyota's hybrid synergy drive in their Cayenne as well. I'm pretty sure their DSG is the same one bought from Borg-Warner as VW's.

Are they saying Porsche will own VW AG or VW? There's a difference. VW AG is the ToMoCo of VW. VW AG consists of Lambo, VW, Audi, Bentley, Bugatti and Seat.
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Porsche made crazy money with options on VW stock earlier this year.
I think they have about 3 billion euro's to spend out of their own pocket at this time.
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they are probably buying a large stake in VW, i doubt the entire company
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
they are probably buying a large stake in VW, i doubt the entire company
Porsche already owns 30.97% of VW. What would qualify as a "large stake"?
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Old 10-17-07, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Koma

Porsche is actually one of the highest yielding car companies, they make the most profit off of each car they sell than any other company. So they probably have a ton of money.
Exactly. I have said for years that most of their vehicles were substantially overpriced, but apparantly the market for them....and the big bank acounts of many of their buyers....... allow that kind of pricing.
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Originally Posted by jaydunn
Porsche already owns 30.97% of VW. What would qualify as a "large stake"?
Probably another 20.03% for a total ownership percentage of 51%...
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Originally Posted by Trexus
Probably another 20.03% for a total ownership percentage of 51%...
Yes, but 20 percent of a huge company like VW is still a LOT of money..........and you aren't going to get that kind of cash by just shaking out a piggy bank or begging on a street corner. Remember that, worldwide, VW is a far bigger and more popular company than it is in the U.S.
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Originally Posted by Koma
Lotus' majority holding share is Proton. Not VW.
Riiight

That "Gen2" with Lotus-inspired suspension which James May wished had Toyota-Inspired interior quality
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Irony in action..... It took VW to make Porsche, now Porsche wants to overtake the company that made them. W.W.F.D. (What would Ferdinand do?)
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Originally Posted by O. L. T.
Irony in action..... It took VW to make Porsche, now Porsche wants to overtake the company that made them. W.W.F.D. (What would Ferdinand do?)
Probably what he did when the Cayenne was introduced....do a 180 in his coffin.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yes, but 20 percent of a huge company like VW is still a LOT of money..........and you aren't going to get that kind of cash by just shaking out a piggy bank or begging on a street corner. Remember that, worldwide, VW is a far bigger and more popular company than it is in the U.S.
I truly understand that. VW is a multi-billion dollar corporation which operates woldwide and had sales of $132,323,100,000 just last year. Volkswagen ranks fifth out of all the auto manufacturers in the world. I used to work for Ernst & Young LLP and Deloitte & Touche LLP and our clients' were big time...

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Old 10-17-07, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Probably what he did when the Cayenne was introduced....do a 180 in his coffin.
So he'll be right-side up now?
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